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2015 MLB Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Drew_Le, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. Nook

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    You are obtuse.
    No one said never draft a close client, but be aware you may not get much of a slot discount at #2 if you take him. It comes down to how much more they like Dansby over other selections at #2 that would allow them to add high bonus requirement high schoolers in the draft.
     
  2. Nook

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    Again... You don't get it.
    No one mentioned Boras or muscling anyone into overpaying. It has to do with Dansby and Close not willing to go far under slot.
     
  3. Dankush

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    6 mil is his asking price by all accounts and that is fair
     
  4. Dankush

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    You still need to take who you believe the BPA is not the CPA
     
  5. Rockets12

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    So should we avoid Swanson, Rodgers, Tucker, Happ, Shaw, Buehler, Allard, Ponce? I wonder how much of a factor he makes though.
     
  6. Dankush

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    I did misunderstand your initial comment but my point remains, agents will ask for fair prices for their clients.
     
  7. sealclubber1016

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    I think they love Swanson, and are willing to pay him full slot value if he's there.

    The 5 pick is where I think we try to play hardball to save some money.
     
  8. Rockets12

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    Nevermind, just saw your message right after (guess my page wasn't loaded). I do wonder how Close will factor in though
     
  9. Nook

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    You very well could be right and if they take Swanson I will think it is a solid pick. All I was saying is that the Astros have always been creative with their slot money. If they view two players closely and one will take $5,000,000 and the other $6,200.000; I could see that being a major consideration.

    This draft, while weak at the top, has some good depth. Saving money at #2 and #5 could make a huge difference later on.
     
  10. awc713

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    This. Unless Dansby is at 2, or unless they really like Rodgers, I could see something like Bregman/Turner at 2/5, or vice verca. I do not want Bregman at 2, but well see. Then nab s college arm that falls to 37, although I would love Bickford at 37
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    I didn't say that. Nobody said that. I will say that you are a childish jackass.
     
  12. rocketpower2

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    Really don't want Bregman at 2. Only if we go way underslot at 2 and 5 and then offer Daz something fierce to demand his way down to 37.
     
  13. J.R.

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    [rquoter]2. Astros
    Callis: SS Alex Bregman, Louisiana State
    This looks like a shortstop, with the pecking order being Swanson followed by Bregman and Lake Mary (Fla.) High's Brendan Rodgers, the Draft's top-rated prospect. Tate is a consideration, but the best college arms should last longer than the top shortstops.

    Mayo: Bregman
    I still think there's a chance the Astros decide to take Orlando area high school shortstop Brendan Rodgers here, but signs point to them going with the LSU infielder, perhaps saving some pool money in the process.

    5. Astros
    Callis: OF Andrew Benintendi, Arkansas
    The Astros long have been rumored to want high school outfielders here -- Cameron, Tucker or Richland High's (North Richland Hills, Texas) Trenton Clark -- but if they're laying in wait for Cameron later they'll go in a different direction here. Benintendi has the best tools among the top college position players, while top-rated pitcher Fulmer could contribute to the pennant race as a reliever this summer.

    Mayo: Tate
    The Santa Barbara ace could very well go a pick ahead to the Rangers, and there was still talk of a possible deal with Florida high school outfielder Kyle Tucker in this spot.

    ...

    Daz Cameron has a reported $5 million price tag. Clubs believe he has a team willing to pay him down further in the Draft, and the guess here is that the Astros (who have the largest bonus pool at $17,289,200) will take him at No. 37 or 46.

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/129269966/shortstops-remain-atop-latest-mock-draft?tcid=tw_share[/rquoter]
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    I like Callis's picks as I think Astros get 2 and 3rd best college position players. Rodgers at 2 sounds like the best pick assuming Swanson is gone, but very hard to judge high school players. I like Fulmer, but I doubt his "floor" as a reliever today makes him more attractive to the Astros.
     
  15. Phillyrocket

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    Cameron at 37? Yes please
     
  16. No Worries

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    Daz Cameron wants 1.4 monies or he is going to college. I suspect that Cameron is a reach at 1.4, so I do not see the value for which the Astros are likely looking.
     
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    [rQUOTEr]2. Houston’s pick is protected; the Astros get compensation next year if they fail to sign this pick. I got that wrong in the last mock. My apologies.

    Alex Bregman has one of the longest track records in this draft as he’s been a top performer fir three years at Louisiana State. They have also been tied to Arkansas center fielder Andrew Benintendi, a center fielder with better performance this year but a shorter track record. They could take Benintendi here and see if Bregman falls to pick five, but there’s more chance that Benintendi will slip than Bregman.

    Selection: Alex Bregman, ss, LSU

    5. The organization generally likes longer track records, but it also like college performers, and Andrew Benintendi has performed in a way that impresses any team’s analytics department. He hit .443 in Southeastern Conference play and has above-average tools, from his bat to his speed to his power potential. Houston has also been tied to outfielder Daz Cameron. With two picks in the top five, Houston can get creative, cutting a deal and trying to clean up at picks 37 and 46.

    Selection: Andrew Benintendi, of, Arkansas

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-mock-draft-2015-version-5-1/[/rQUOTEr]
     
  18. sealclubber1016

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    If Swanson isn't there at 2, I think we could try to save a lot of money at that pick. The difference between going 2 and going 6 is 3.5 million. The dropoff after the 5th pick is much smaller, so potential savings there are much lower.

    If no propsects truly stand out, doing something like that would be the pragmatic choice. The possibility of getting 3 top 10 prospects is the best way to hedge your bets when there are no truly elite prospects.
     
  19. Zacatecas

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    All of the speculation will unravel soon... I have seen so many scenarios about who is going where.

    But a lot will likely will go down to the wire... Do they go underslot or do they pay market value?

    Because working underslot deals are tricky. in 2012 it was beautifully executed. i 2014, everything blew up in Astros face.

    Can you imagine if Aiken had not had the injury concern. if Nix had signed. It was poised to work excellent again.

    I am curious how it plays out.
     
  20. juicystream

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    My pipe dream would be for Matuella to fall to #37.

    Like everyone else, I do not want Bregman at #2. I find it interesting how many teams near the top supposedly want Swanson, yet most prospect rankings have Rodgers #1.
     

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