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Kerr vs. Blatt

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by hoopster325, May 16, 2015.

  1. LCAhmed

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    Kerr is the sexy pic since he's taken a decent squad to the best record and conference finals appearance, where as Blatt was thrown onto a team with 3 superstars, one of which is LeBron James, who is arguably the Best player to grace the court in the last 15 years (essentially post Jordan Era). So he gets no love.

    I think my son could coach the cavs with LeBron on it and reach the 2nd round of the eastern conference playoffs.

    By the way, I don't actually have a son.

    LeBron coaches his own teams.

    Coaches are puppets to him.

    Illuminati.
     
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  2. A_3PO

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    FIFY. Rookie head coaches with zero experience as an assistant do not turn teams into elite defensive units. That takes a proven, seasoned guy who is probably the best defensive coach in the NBA.
     
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  3. Kim

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    Is Adams the guy who made the Bogut on Allen move? If so, sign him up. I'm all for a McHale replacement with a meticulous defensive minded guy.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    Adams is their defensive "guru". He doesn't have aspirations to be an NBA head coach.

    Regarding Bogut on Allen, I don't believe that's the first time a team has done something like this against the Grizzlies. It was a smart move but nothing spectacular. The ability of Draymond Green to defend Marc Gasol and Harrison Barnes to guard Z-Bo (which blew my mind) was key to the whole Bogut/Allen thing until Joerger mercifully yanked Allen.
     
  5. malakas

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    I'ts not only Adams it's also Gentry that makes Kerr look so good. But a good head coach has to be able to choose good assistants and listen to them and not be too stubborn. So Kerr has that going for him, something that i.e Thibs lacks.
     
  6. Easy

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    I am no fan of Kerr. But I just wonder why people give him no credit because he uses good assistants? But if a head coach has crappy assistants, he gets the blame.

    I mean, from reading threads and posts about coaches, my impression is that head coaches almost never get the credit but always get the blame. Maybe the only exceptions are Pop and Phil.
     
  7. malakas

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    The coach is always the easy scapegoat. There is not one fanbase that doesn't ask for the coach's head in a plate once every season at least. Even Pop.
    But I'm with you. Good coaches should have good assistants and it shouldn't be held against them, but in favour of them.
    But good coaches should also remain good, and find/hire other good assistants, when their first assistants are poached away like Pop has managed to do all these years. So let's see what happens this summer, when Gentry is likely to be poached away from Kerr.
     
  8. stab

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    Taking a crappy ass Russian national squad to a bronze medal has to count for something.
     
  9. Rocket River

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    This

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  10. Yung-T

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    And a Maccabi team with a fraction of other salaries to the EuroLeague title. He's criminally underrated here, I think he needs one full training camp with his team now in order to implement a proper system and gain the trust of his players.

    Have to add that some of the players (JR, Shumpert, Kyrie, Bron) are a nightmare for every coach, so he doesn't have it easy for a first year coach. Needs to demand respect in the future or Bron and his minions will continue to undermine Blatt.
     
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    The players play better for Kerr than Mark Jackson. So much friction in that locker room and behind the scenes till it became detrimental in all facets of the organization.

    Kerr is doing a good job but the players like him better and it shows in the production, its the same team but I don't think Kerr is THAT much better of a Coach than Mark, if any at all. I still remember the Steve Kerr that ruined the Phoenix SUns dynasty with dumb FO trade/move after the next.

    NBA is a players league and Kerr has the ultimate mix of players, this team would be great with or without him. Where was Kerrs greatness when Tony Allen was locking up his backcourt? Then when Allen gets injured the splash brothers were finally able to get off and dominate the series. That wasn't Kerr's 'great' coaching.

    The team goes as the the backcourt goes, not because Kerr is some all time great Coach, F the Warriors to end it.
     
  13. J Hard

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    Dynasty in terms of WC dominance for a long stretch of time, nothing for those that will take that the wrong way.
     
  14. el gnomo

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    Exactly, and this is why he won't win anything with Cleveland. He finally got a daddy in Pat Riley and won a couple championships. Daddy didn't let him get his way, so he threw a fit and ran away.
     
  15. A_3PO

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    This article specifically says Adams was responsible for putting Bogut on Allen.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/marcus-thompson/ci_28132102/thompson-steve-kerr-shows-growth-fly
    Kerr also took defensive stalwart Tony Allen out of the series. Allen was spectacular on defense in Games 2 and 3, frustrating Thompson and disrupting the Warriors offense. Kerr assistant Ron Adams, the defensive wizard, had a plan for Allen. And Kerr put into action for Game 4.

    Again, not exactly a genius move IMO but a smart one.
     
  16. mingthething

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    i think very few coaches have done time as both GM for a good franchise (at the time) AND championship level player under two all-time greats (PhilJax and Pops) .
    Pop? GM before he became HC
    Pat Riley? Yup
     
  17. malakas

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    Yes and that's all.
    Everyone talking about : Blatt has more titles than any coach in the NBA. Well the only real titles are the Euroleague in 2014 and the Eurobasket 2007.
    And in both tournaments they were one and done games not series.
    And Russia had a really great team anyway (though Spain did have better). National team tournaments are really hard to judge coaching because every team is limited by the national talent. It's not like teams where you have budgets and can fill holes in the roster.
    So two. At best I will add the title with Benetton.
    The rest of the israeli titles don't count one penny since Maccabi is the only real team there and the league is a joke.

    If you want to see a real good european coach then look at Obradovic or Messina.
     
  18. roslolian

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    Kerr in my mind is the ultimate players coach, while Blatt is obviously an X-and-O's tactical genius as proved in his Euroleague stints. The problem is the NBA is a player's league, if you think about it Blat has almost nothing to do with the Cavs winning because Lebron just ignores all of his genius plays and basically makes all the calls. I read several articles where the players couldn't understand Blatt's plays so they scrapped 'em, and during games how Blatt would wait for Lebron to run a play before he calls it to the rest of the team and how Blatt just gives out very simple plays, likely to allow the King to do a lot of free styling. So in the end even if Blatt is a genius he doesn't have the charisma or leadership to get guys to follow him, so at the end of the his genius is useless.

    On the other hand Kerr basically took the same team from Marc Jackson and then made them contenders. He might not be as good at X-and-O's but since coaching allows so many people to help him he can just hire the best assistants in the world to design the plays and think of counter strategies.

    So maybe if the NBA was a league with a different culture (like say CBA or other Asian leagues) an X-and-O's coach would be more valuable. But given the nature of the NBA and the fact that you can hire genius X-and-O guys to be your assistants a guy like Kerr is a better coach in the NBA IMHO. Just like in Houston vs Dallas, Carlisle couldn't get their mid season splash on the same page while Mchale got JSmith to take a paycut and cut out the mid range J, his fav or 2nd fav shot prior to Houston.
     
  19. Jontro

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    So... your son is Illuminati who owns LerBon?
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Yeah I'm sure McHale is polishing up his resume right now.
     

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