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Bev and Dmo = much different series

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, May 11, 2015.

  1. cardpire

    cardpire Member

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    Correct, Beverley is an upgrade over Jason Terry. No impact on the results of this series though.
     
  2. jump shooter

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    Well said. What Beverly were you going to get and with DMO's massive rebounding deficiency's and zero playoff experience it's all hard to say. But obviously I would have rather seen them out there instead of Terry and Capela. Morey gambled on Beverlys health when he moved the young Cannan while becoming dependent on the two 37 year PGs. Hindsight is 20/20.
     
  3. Mr. Dominant

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    DMo is an upgrade over Jones on both ends of the court, Bev is an upgrade defensively over any PG on the roster. It's obvious that we'd have done MUCH better with them healthy. Who knows if we'd be beating the Clippers or not, but at least we'd have a chance.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    If you go 100 MPH and the other guys is going 65 MPH
    After an Hour you are 35 miles ahead of him
    Now . .. saying replacing that 65 MPH car with a 99 MPH car won't change the result is not exactly science accurate

    If the faster car has a flat . . . .. that takes 5 minutes to change
    well . . .. the 99 MPH car will make it to the finish line 1st. . the 65 mph car won't

    It is a convolute way to make the point that
    The Clipper's margin for error with Bev was MUCH lower than with Terry

    A jump rising releasing then a hand in the face shot
    versus
    A jump hand in the face then rising together shot

    The second might miss more. . . might shake confidence . . . . might lead to breaks . . . . etc etc etc
    The clippers did not play error free basketbal . . .. with terry we could not take advantage of those errors as well

    Rocket River
     
  6. jordnnnn

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    I keep seeing this and it's just twisted logic.

    No they aren't worth 20-30 points, but with them I think there is a better chance that these 10 point leads don't get pushed to the 20 range, which is where we seem to just give up and we reach the point of no return.
     
  7. caneks

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    wow, how many Bev haters were there in this forum when he was on the court playing? now he is being missed?
     
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    His 6 fouls are surely missed.
     
  10. DREAM ON!

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    To a lesser extent, do not forget Asik. Morey patched up that hole with DORESY!

    So the Rockets went into the playoffs with out Bev, DMo and Asik.

    Anyone else besides me think that Asik would have been useful against DeAndre the Giant?

    -I know this is far fetched, seing as it freed up room to get Brew and Smith. Just food for though, Morey never got a proper back up center
     
  11. Liberon

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    Asik would have bodied him up (positional defense) and grabbed a few rebounds with his mass and height. But aside from that nothing more. He's in the past, what I don't get is how the **** Bev and McDaniels break their wrists so easily and how Dmo got hurt just like that...
     
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    DMo and Bev would have helped for sure. There are players in this league who are skilled, talented and have nice stats, but somehow pull teams down (especially in the absence of proper coaching) in terms of winning or losing. Players like Marbury, Melo, and in this case, Josh Smith and to a certain extent Jason Terry.

    DMo and Bev would have been more positive forces for the team in this series because they are unselfish and work within the team concept. Probably wouldn't have overcome the LAC onslaught but I believe it would not have been this bad if the two were around.
     
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    Terry has actually played VERY WELL for us this series, and Chris Paul has been decidedly mediocre. Not sure if Bev and his bricks and his slightly-above-average defense would make any difference at all.
     
  15. Lawlruschang

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    For all of you who are saying it doesn't matter because we'd have no heart... wasn't Beverley one of the emotional leaders on this team?

    And doesn't it keep your team fired up to have 5 starting caliber players on the active roster instead of 3?

    To have our 2nd and 3rd best non-defensive liability three point shooters?

    To be forced into less playing time using beverley/brewer/smith when it just wasn't working out?

    It makes a huge difference. In the grand scheme of things we probably win game 1, and keep it a lot closer in games 2 and 3, which puts us at an advantage with a 2-2 series and homecourt advantage going into the final three games.

    There are no excuses for the travesty committed by mchale and this team the way it stands. But that also does not change the fact that adding 2 solid players to our roster makes a significant difference.
     
  16. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    Tjones is averaging only 4,75 rebounds per game in this series. Rockets average 44,75 rebounds per game.

    Even if Clippers would scout DMO and shut him down, they'd need to waste ton of energy and man power to chase him away from 3 point line and deny his non stop screening. Right now Clippers don't even need to bother about Jones or Smith and that's the point. DMO is demanding attention what makes life easier for our superstars. Also he'd expand our bench what was one of the keys to our season - long bench.
     
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    26 year Beverly vs. the two 37 year old PGs, he's sorely missed even though the rockets will never win a championship with him as a starting PG (Harden needs to play off the ball at times in playoffs). People in here keep thinking your going to get the same results in the regular season with players and it will translate to the playoffs. The playoffs is 2-3 times more physical than the regular season, Beverly is one of the most physical PGs in the league, DMO is a finesse BBall player and the opposite when it comes to playing physical and rebounding down low ect,. After seeing Beverly in prior rocket playoff games I can at least say he would have brought that physicality and aggressiveness that the rockets are lacking on the defensive side of the ball.
     
  19. Aleron

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    Beverley's defense was a bit sporadic, but it seemed to be much about Dwight, with Dwight, he can play much more aggressively, he's not so great at playing a containing defense.

    But Come on, JJ Barea put up 17 and 13 on us, and I remember from years ago when a fan here asked why he did so well against us, and he said it's because we don't pressure the ball, Beverley has also destroyed him every time they've played in the last 2 years (Barea has shot 7-37 and 1-15 from 3 since Bev became our starter lol).

    Ariza is a good defender, but he's more of a wing ballhawk than a head of the snake defense, having him on Paul is something we have to do, but it takes away his greatest strength, which in turn completely cripples our wing defense.

    Being frustrated with Beverley and wanting him replaced with Terry is something completely different, it's especially noticeable when it's our defense that's collapsing in a giant heap, i also remember him hitting that big time shot against the Clippers during the season :/
     
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  20. Normalus

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    DMo can't fly after surgery, not sure but I thought Beverley was there.

    It's funny people forget that DMo is a huge factor both offensively and defensively. Do you really think Blake would've just dominated 255 pound 7-footer in the paint, who is probably the best post-defender on our team? That's funny. Don't forget DMo plays a huge role offensively, especially creating a fast break, stretching the floor, setting picks for our guards, 3pt threat and best post-scorer on our team. Blake would've been wore-out on defensive side and would've been less effective offensively.

    This series would've been 2-2 at worst!

    Same with Beverley, he is a spark and plays hard, he would've help a lot on CP3 and Rivers, there is no doubt.
     

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