lets say kobe beats the charges or they are bs

Jordan is a scumbag as is Kobe. Dream, AC Green those guys are role models.

 

using the specific definition from dictionary.com
role model
n.
A person who serves as a model in a particular behavioral or social role for another person to emulate.

according to the definition, i'd probably say he isn't. the guy cheated on his wife just months after they had their child. i'd bet everybody before the adultery admission thought the guy was a good spouse and we all know how that turned out. maybe he should use the good ol' "you know me, i wouldn't do such a thing" line in court, god knows how much that comment helped him its just too bad some females/groupies will always love him no matter what. kind of like how a "blind" woman stays with an abusive husband. don't expect kobe to do any ethical/morality commercials in the future

 

I never looked up to any athlete as a role-model in my life and, if I were, it certainly wouldn't have been Bryant. And, I never doubted he'd be capable of rape, or murder, or incest, or any despicable thing. So, for me, nothing has changed. But, I understand others do look up to Bryant and, if he's not in prison (or maybe even if he is), I'm sure there will still be people who do idolize him like that. So, his role-model role won't go away. And, in so far as it is appropriate to look to professional athletes to serve as a role-model (not very, imo), I don't think he's a terrible choice. You don't need to emulate every fault you see in your role-model. And, being human, they all will have some.

 

NO kobe is not a role model anymore neither is Jordan. As Summer Song Giver said, people like Dream AC, Duncan, those are Role models. Great basketball players but more importantly great people. No matter what happens in the trail, Kobe is still a great basketball player but he has already proven to be a not so great person.

 

Jordan's life hasn't been hurt by his gambling. I'm not the biggest Jordan fan, but I see no reason to dislike him. Most athletes aren't worthy to be role models except in the sense that they have exceled in their line of work. But calling Jordan a compulsive gambler is borderline ignorant. I don't think a guy who has saved up enough money to buy a sports franchise has too much of a gambling problem.

 

jordans awesome. ac green is probly the best pure role model if you want that, but maybe he has just covered up his mistakes better than anybody else? didnt hakeem get a divorce or something?

 

I believe that Jordan gets more flack for an alleged affair.

 

The guy is a compulsive gambler. Just because he has enough money to do so does not mean he doesnt have a gambling problem.

 

So you are saying that Martin Luther King is NOT a good role model?

j/p, Kobe has ruined his super hero image forever. Even if he is found innocent, he'll still have to join his good buddies Magic, MJ, and Larry Bird as the "not quite so" perfect guys.

 

And whose life has this affected negatively, his, his children's, his wife's? Compulsive or not, he does not have a problem. It hasn't gotten in the way of anything he has wanted to do.

 

I wouldn't use the word "scumbag" but I agree with your general drift.

BTW, I disagree with Charles Barkley's disclaimer "I am not paid to be a role model." Once you are a celebrity, especially sports celeb, you are a role model to a lot of kids. Like it or not, you cannot choose not to be a role model, because many kids (especially kids who don't have strong parental guidance) look up to you. You can only choose to be a good model or a bad model. It comes with the job from which you make millions of dollars.

 

I don't think Kobe has ever done anything to warrant being a role model. Heck, Shaq has done more than he has. Just cause Kobe has always held a good guy image doesn't mean he's a good guy.

I think if you want to go for basketball role models, you go for players like Hakeem, or better yet, David Robinson.

 

If Kobe did a lot of charity works and give away a lot of money to charities and good cause, then he's a good role model in my eyes. But seems like he didn't do any of that I know of so he's a scumbag. The guy went off and bought his wife $4mil in a ring after he cheated on her. Why not use that money for good charities and it would've give him good face but no, the guy is one big lier and a cheater.

Role model my @ss!

 

We aren't really asking them to be role model but a play a good role as a citizen. Things like drug, adultery, drinking and driving, battery ect. should'nt even be there in the first place. We are not really asking them to be a role model but at least be a good citizens.

 

The point isnt that he has hurt himself, his kids, or his wife. The point is that he is a compulsive gambler. You can be a compulsive gambler without losing an arm and a leg.

 

How does this make him a bad guy is my point???


"Bonds is an ass who only seems to care about himself...Ruth did a ton for kids."

Originally posted by Robbie in another thread after I pointed out that Ruth was womanizer and played drunk.

I guess its worse when its Jordan.

 

Go back and read this thread. I never once stated that Jordan was a bad guy. The only thing I was disputing was the fact that you said he wasnt a compulsive gambler and that people who thought so were "borderline ignorant".

 

Go back and read the post, I said the statement was borderline ignorant, and furthermore I consider that statement to be negative, so its just a matter of perception.

When I think of a compulsive gambler, I think of a guy having a problem paying his bills because of a habit.

And if you read the first post further, Robbie links compulsive gambling to being a bad guy, and I responded before Rezdawg posted in the thread.