Correct non-call they say. 00:03.7 Foul: Shooting Tim Duncan James Harden CNC Duncan (SAS) jumps vertically on Harden's (HOU) layup attempt and cleanly blocks the shot. There is contact after the blocked shot, but because the shot is already blocked, the contact is incidental and deemed to have no impact on the shot attempt. http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/04/L2M-SAS-HOU-4-10-15.pdf
Yea, just saw that on the website: http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/04/L2M-SAS-HOU-4-10-15.pdf Now I will just STFU on this play. Glad I am not a betting man on that $100 posted on the BBS.
Of course it was the correct call. Only on this board will you find people dumb enough to say otherwise.
What about the Marc Gasol foul on Gordan Hayward. WTF man, that was incidental contract after the shot too
it'd odd, it's like the rules really are different in the last 2 minutes, like they've made it that the jump shooter needs to be able to come down except in the last 2 minutes, watch that hayward one frame by frame and you can see the point where his body gets hit (it's not humanly possible to spin yourself of your own volition like happened to him)
I didn't watch the game but saw the replay. I don't know what the correct rule is. He clearly hit ball, then arm. The NBA is saying that's not a foul. Which to me I guess means if you're ever going for a block or steal as long as you touch the ball first then anything that happens next even if it would have otherwise normally been a foul, now isn't. Is that correct?
i think it may only apply to arm contact, although that hayward one makes me doubt that too, although incidental would imply minor contact. The odd part is its not even in the rules lol
The block on the ball is the reason harden didn't make the shot not the incidental content that followed after the block
He should have passed it to Howard who had his man pinned for the easy dunk or ally-oop.. but he had to be the hero cause of his statement.
Interesting. I never knew that part of the rule about incidental contact. I would run at 3-point shooters all day. I'd go full steam ahead and as long as I block the ball, I can tackle the shooter and say my momentum made it incidental contact after the shot was blocked.
Have you guys never seen Mutombo? Come on, by this standard of making contact on a block, Deke would've never had so many because he hit a lot of body and arm while blocking shots. Olajuwon was one of the few who never made a lot of contact, because he was a weakside blocker and just timed it perfectly.
00:09.5 Foul: Personal James Harden. Harden (HOU) makes body to body contact that affects Ginobili's (SAS) RSBQ as he drives toward the basket. INC Ginobili should have been given two free throws on the previous play, at least according to the NBA.
I think they treat a driving layup and a jump shot differently. In a driving layup, the offensive player is moving toward the basket. In a jump shot, the shooter is jumping straight up. In a drive, the defender is allowed to have incidental contact as long as the contact does not affect the shot. In a jump shot, the defender has to jump toward the shooter in order to make contact. I think they used to not call a foul if the contact was after the shot. But now, they try to protect shooters from getting injured by over aggressive defenders. I don't claim to know for sure. But that's how I interpret these calls.
Which is why I don't get why they used the same incidental contact to say Hayward's was an incorrect call, the only conclusion i lean towards is the rules really are different in the last 2 minutes.
