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A point I would like to make about the "clean" block

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Noob Cake, Apr 10, 2015.

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  1. ZJP3

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    It was clean. You are not gonna get that call. If that was Dwight blocking Manu we would be screaming that it was clean and there is no argument. We lost and I am sad.
     
  2. adobo

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    I will bet $100 that there will be NO apology tomm. Willing to go higher.
     
  3. Mr. Dominant

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    Who gives a flying ****, I'm glad they didn't call it, even if it was a foul. You think referees have that good a vision, let the guys play! Harden was crying the whole game and this is what you get. He missed so many lay-ups before so he might have even blown that one.
     
  5. Rocket2008

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    Just looked at with replay and it's clean! Even during the game it looked clean.
     
  6. Dgn1

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    FOUL, man yall know Harden gets that call most games.
     
  7. Roxfan4lyfe

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    This is my first post.... I can't lie I hate that the rockets put their selves in a bad situation and I know Tim Duncan is a no brainier hall famer but that was clearly a foul and it shouldve been called.. I also understand the refs dont call fouls in clutch situations but that was all arm man. The rockets need to learn from this and improve as a team
     
  8. crash5179

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    If that looks clean to you then you absolutely do not understand or even know the rule.

    Any contact to the wrist or arm prior to the offensive player releasing the ball is a foul. This is true even if the ball is hit first if it prevents the player from following through with his shot.

    1. Ball was hit 1st
    2. Wrist and forearm was then grabbed
    3. Hardens arm did not follow through with the shot

    Those are 3 indisputable facts. It was absolutely a foul and is only ignored by those looking to justify the non-call for what ever reason.
     
  9. crash5179

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    Whether or not it was a foul vs whether or not you think it should be called are two completely different discussions. If you think it was clean then you absolutely do not know the rule.
     
  10. knickstorm

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    ohhh stop that same screenshot can be used to argue harden is using the off arm to keep Duncan away from blocking it. Dwight and that guy in the suit watched the replay on the screen and had no reaction because they saw a clean block.
     
  11. roidrage

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    Harden was not an mvp last night period had not been aggressive the whole night the rockets deserved to lose
     
  12. Amel

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    its really hard to call those, at first it looked like a block

    we put our selves in this position, I mean missing 30 FT will get you nowhere

    if MilkHair had some brain the only training all the poor free throw players would have is free throw shooting
     
  13. tenguin

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    Just saw it again on sc, it was clean. Yesterday I thought otherwise but now I see Duncan hit ball first and then you see the hit on the wrist.

    Got outcoached level pops. Let's trade for thibs! He is looking at the magic
     
  14. HardenHardon

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    This is where he gets the ball. You may have to remove your homer glasses to see it, though.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. joeson332

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    Why not take the jumper. Have Dwight or god willing Dorsey for a tip in rebound. Why call that
     
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    Do you know what is great about Michael Jordan's and Hakeem Olajuwon's game? Their strategy and footwork puts them in position and gives them just the right amount of space to release a shot that they have practiced over and over.

    The game is simple, they have an unstoppable move...and a counter. The decision lays solely on their own shoulders whether they made the correct decision.

    Harden's game is still too heavily reliant on external factors. BUT, the rate of improvement from last season to this season is exponential. The obvious defensive improvement and the addition of a more consistent step back jumper gives him some artillery. Add to that his current age and contract situation...

    If Harden can add some simplicity to his game (a go-to move and a counter) and take the referees out of the equation, the game will flow around him.
     
  17. tanviraman

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    This is why it's not a block and is a clear foul. And I'll take that bet. If Duncan blocked the bottom of the ball and caused Harden to lose control of the ball, and then inadvertently hit his arm I would not be complaining. But Harden has control of the ball until his arm is hit period.
     
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    So your saying you don't understand the rules. No problem, Cary on.
     
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    Do you use your own Font?
     
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    1. Spoiler your image due to size please.

    2. That picture does not show Duncan dislodging the ball from Harden's hand. Because the ball is in Harden's hand he has the same right to follow through with his shot as if Duncan never touched the ball. It's the rules of the NBA.

    3. Once Duncan grabbed Harden's arm and didn't allow Harden to follow through with his shot, it's a foul. That's the rule.

    4. If Duncan had hit Harden in the hand only then it would not have been a foul since the hand is an extension of the ball.

    5. If Harden had been able to follow through with his shot normally and Duncan touching the arm after touching the ball had no effect on the shot then it's not a foul.

    That is the NBA rule. Harden did not lose the ball and Duncan's hand on Harden's arm prevented Harden's arm from following through with the shot. Technically that should have been a 2 shot foul.

    Whether you think it should have been called is another debate but it is clearly a foul.
     

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