Goes a long way to clearing up the image of the US's inteligence community." Wolfowitz How about clearing up the image of Wolfowitz and the Bush Administration? I guess we had the war because Sadam had sons?? Got to laugh at that one. Good try. The CIA and the intelligence is looking bad only to the extent that they caved in and didn't protest louder the dishonest and wrong "intelligence" contrived by Wolfowitz and the Bush Administration. Wolfowitz and gang are in trouble because the US and British intelligence communities have been leaking from the beginning about the selctive and dishonest use of scattered and often forged or unreliable sources to push the pro war agenda. Just remember that Bush is Wolfowitz is Rumsfeld.
If confirmed to be true, this is a wonderful day for the coalition force in Iraq. It is fantastic to see the hard work and the efforts of the thousands of men and women in the armed forces be rewarded by such a high profile find. This should be a huge morale boost to a body of soldiers that has been listening to disparaging comments from their political opponents (extreme Democrats) for the past month or so. Imagine fighting a war, sacrificing your family life at home, seeing comrades die in battle, and enduring the physical pains that are associated with living in the desert for an extended period of time, then reading about how your military victory was against a soft opponent, not justified politically, not going as well as planned or a mission doomed to fail. This can wear on a soldier's morale. It is days like today that make it all worthwhile for the soldiers. Congratulations and keep up the good work in Iraq.
Only a matter of time before we get them all. Excellent work, troops. Polls should be swinging W's way shortly.
A BIG Congratulations to our brave warriors on the battlefield!!! A great moment to be remembered in History! This is the juice we needed to keep the momentum going the way it needs to go!
WTF are you smoking? Yes, everyone, and I mean everyone is glad that our troops have killed two heinous criminals, but you think it's well said to throw in an irrelevant and inappropriate slam to anti-war people? Do you know how many bullets the anti-war crowd has fired at the troops? Do you know how many American soldiers the anti-war crowd has ordered into mortal danger? Do you know how much "intelligence information" (sic) that the anti-war crowd has selectively ignored, resulting in hundreds of dead young Americans that would otherwise be alive today? Oh, yeah, that's right. Zero, zero, and zero. Again, congrats to the troops. Now bring in some more international help, prop up some government, draft Trader_Jorge as a replacement soldier, and then get the rest of those kids home.
What are you talking about, you know this is nothing more than another fake report pur out by the CIA....
Whatever B-Bob...What Trader_Jorge stated was as well said as you can say it mainly because it's the truth...
No, ROXRAN, this is not "the truth" (triple sic). The troops do not have "political opponents." Or are GOP membership cards now given out like so many rations? When will just one of you get it through your head that most anti-war people love and support the troops just as much as anyone else? I should accept the obvious answer, "never," but here I go again. To wish fervently that hundreds of them were still alive and home with their families, to pray that the daily attacks on them cease, that the infrastructure and nation-building process go as quickly as possible, to pray that each one of them somehow gets out of this alive: that's love and support. To blindly support an elective war supported with shoddy evidence because people like you would rather that I shut up and not express my opinions: that would be cowardly and criminal of me.
You're a bloody traitor B-Bob, you might has well have pulled the trigger on all the soldiers' deaths. I'm thankful for threads like these. I almost get pulled back into participating in debates, but this reminds me why I have no desire to do it.
cnn.com just reported that they are now confirmed dead. http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/22/sprj.irq.sons/index.html Pentagon: Saddam's sons are dead 'Multiple sources' identified bodies, Army general says Tuesday, July 22, 2003 Posted: 4:16 PM EDT (2016 GMT) BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's sons, Qusay and Uday, were killed Tuesday in a gunbattle with U.S. troops in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, the commander of U.S. ground forces in Iraq said. Their bodies were identified from "multiple sources," Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez told reporters in Baghdad. "They died in a fierce gunbattle," Sanchez said. "They resisted detention and the effort of coalition forces to apprehend them." When asked whether the $15 million bounties on both Uday and Qusay will be paid, Sanchez said, "I would expect that it probably will happen." Uday, 39, and Qusay, 37 -- key members of Saddam's regime -- were among four people killed during the battle. Sanchez said U.S. forces learned about the whereabouts of the brothers from a walk-in Iraqi tipster Monday night. Sanchez said the 101st Airborne Division, Special Forces and Air Force assets participated in the six-hour operation on a residence near the northern edge of the city. A military task force formed to hunt for Saddam and his top supporters led the raid, supported by extensive armor and air cover, officials said. Two-hundred members of the 101st Airborne Division also joined the assault, and no one was captured, a U.S. official told CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr. The military went in and engaged in a "big firefight," the official said. A senior Pentagon official said one of the other two bodies appeared to be that of a teenage boy. U.S. officials noted that Qusay has a teenage son. The other body recovered appeared to be that of a bodyguard. A U.S. official said Saddam was not among them. U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld briefed President Bush about the Mosul operation after it was over, a senior defense official said. "Part of the reason he discussed this operation in particular was because he knew it would get a lot of attention, and that first reports are often wrong," the official said. The initial White House reaction was cautious, though one official said confirmation that the two sons were killed would "brighten" spirits after recent criticism that the Bush administration exaggerated the former Iraqi regime's threat. Saddam and his sons have been fugitives since their government collapsed after a U.S.-led invasion in March. Mosul is a Kurd-controlled city about 110 miles [176 kilometers] from both Syria and Iran. Intelligence officials said they are investigating whether Uday and Qusay were attempting to find a way out of Iraq. Retired Army Brig. Gen. David Grange said the deaths of Uday and Qusay would deal a psychological blow to Saddam loyalists attacking U.S. troops. The hunt for Saddam in Iraq is led by a U.S. Special Operations team -- code-named Task Force 20 -- with support from the CIA. The task force, which also took part in the rescue of Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch, includes covert special operations forces from the various U.S. military services. Qusay and Uday are the second- and third-most-wanted Iraqi leaders, and both are in the card deck of most-wanted Iraqis issued to U.S. troops in Iraq. Uday is the ace of hearts and Qusay the ace of clubs. Qusay has been the son widely perceived as most likely to have succeeded Saddam. With Iraq preparing its defenses in the run-up to the war, Qusay was put in charge of four key areas, including Baghdad and Tikrit -- his family's tribal home. When the war began, he was in charge of the country's intelligence network, the 80,000-strong Republican Guard and 15,000-member Special Republican Guard, which was responsible for protecting Saddam and his family. Uday has a reputation for violence that included torturing Iraqi athletes who did not meet expectations. He ran the dreaded Saddam Fedayeen security force. He was also in charge of the nation's Olympic committee, edited a leading newspaper, Babel, and was head of Youth TV, the country's most popular channel. Just before the war, Uday warned that Iraqi troops would make the mothers of U.S. soldiers "weep blood instead of tears."
edit: never mind. Agree with RM95. Bottom-line: This is incredibly good news, for dastardly human-loving traitors and blue-blooded patriots alike.
Hip-hip hooray!!! they killed Saddam's sons but...where are the WMD's? Remember that is what this war was about that Saddam and his son's had these weapons and we still haven't found ****. It wasn't about killing Saddam and his followers but I'm sure this will be used as a detour to get people's minds off what we were really looking for.
Henry IV, Act v, Sc.1 I'm glad to see that those two bastards are taking the celestial dirt nap. It shows Saddam that a squad of badasses are not far from your door as well. And as for all of those who said we couldn't find the top three guys......2 down, one more to go. I had no problem with people protesting when the runup to the war was an ongoing act, but when the fighting started, it really need to stop. And for those who continued to criticise the war, like the Dixie Chicks when our troops were in the field, you were providing aid and comfort to our enemies.....meaning.....treachery.
