Flip-side : It makes her the exact kind of person that a predator, sexual or otherwise, would target.
Only that Kobe didnt go after her...she went and found him. I also doubt that Kobe knew that this girl's friend had died was therefore a prime target. C'mon man, thats ridiculous.
You must be a moron if you really think the DA was resting his case on the hopes that Kobe would deny having sex with that girl even though he had DNA evidence which says otherwise. Any lawyer would know that Kobe would imediately come clean before the case even went to trial. Hence the reason Kobe came clean on the day he was charged. It's funny how you think Kobe has all the credibility when he already denied doing anything last week, then suddenly does a 180 turn and confesses to adultery. Kobe lied once and it's not hard to believe he'll lie again. I sure hope you don't become a lawyer one day. Seems you'll need one eventually though since you want to go into medicine so will most likely get sued for malpractice one day.
He ordered room service. But perhaps Bryant could tell she was a little shy, and hurting - that's all I was saying.
I always give the defendant the benefit of the doubt. Works the same way in the court of law. Did you not know that? About me being sued for malpractice one day...Its funny how such an insignificant thread all of a sudden means that I will be a horrible doctor. I didnt think my surgery performance would be damaged as a result of my comments in this thread. Im sorry you feel that way. Ive helped out more individuals within the last 6 years than you will ever help. Thats enough for me to be able to sleep peacefully at nights.
He ordered room service and she asked the guy carrying the food if she could deliver it to his room. She is a concierge, not a delivery person. She had no business going to his room.
So now, since she delivered food to his room, she was asking for it, right? You should totally be a defense lawyer, focusing on rape cases. You've got the scumbag act down pat. - Hotel guests reported they heard a struggle. - Both Kobe and the alleged victim went to the hospital after the incident. - A taxi cab driver reported Kobe's entourage had suspect conversations when driving him back to the hotel while he hid in the back seat. - He checked out that night or early the next morning to move to another hotel. All that plus the fact that the DA is in no way obligated to share the entire case with the media prior to the case and they may well have more. 'All the evidence so far,' does not include the above facts. It only implies that the girl was mentally unstable or something. It only seeks to damage her credibility by preying on the fact that she was depressed about a breakup and a friend dying. You are right -- this is the standard defense to rape -- demonizing the victim. You even seem to enjoy doing it. You look silly saying the DNA was the only evidence and you look even sillier continuing to defend yourself in this thread. You've decided based on your friend's say so that Kobe's too good a guy (and too goodlooking a guy) to ever rape anyone and you've called a woman you've never met and know virtually nothing about a "ho." And yet you whine when people call YOU names. Not a single person has agreed with you even a little bit in this or the other thread and yet you continue to play superior. Nice.
Major, it was their only piece of evidence that they could have used against Kobe HAD Kobe denied ever having sex with her. That's not what you said. To quote it a 3rd time: <I>They had a case before Kobe admitted to having sex with her. That was their only proof and they were hoping that Kobe would continue denying any sexual relations. </I> You said they had a case. After he admitted having sex, they no longer have any case because that was "their only proof". That's a load of crap. Catching people lying about having sex is not the only evidence of rape. The D.A. was trying to show that Kobe had in fact had sexual relations with this girl. Now that Bryant has stated that he has had sex with her, that piece of information is completely useless to the prosecution. That's true. It is quite obvious that a DNA sample was the D.A. biggest lead into these charges. Where do you get that? Again, do you know all the evidence? If not, how the hell do you knwo that it was their biggest lead? In almost ALL rape cases, its quite clear the two people had sex. That's a tiny part of proving rape. The only other thing that they could have is/are bruises or scratches on the girl. However, to prove that it happened during the time of this "rape" is hard to prove. That's the only other evidence of rape? Wow, it's amazing that anyone ever gets convicted of it then. Do you disagree with the fact that the overdosing hurts the prosecution? Not at all. Do you also disagree that the girl's friend dying makes her a little bit unstable? Not at all. Neither of these things makes her a "ho" or makes this "game over" or anything of the sort.
Batman...when the verdict is "not guilty", I will let you retract all of your comments. You meanie. Wah wah wah...
Okay..it may not make her a ho, but it makes it "game over" in 999 out of 1000 cases. If the accuser loses any credibility, so does her case.
"Not guilty" does not equal innocent. You've backtracked by now, but you know what you said and we all do too. And when you called the girl a ho, you gave up any credibility. I've never suggested Kobe raped that girl. You're the one who made up your mind immediately, based on nothing, that the girl was a ho. And, as of that moment, I made up my mind, based on that, that you were a worthless b****. A superstar being able to buy justice, even if he is guilty, will not vindicate you for your stupid, hateful comments. Call me sensitive all you want. You've obviously never known someone who was the victim of a violent crime only to be further victimized for reporting it. Everyone knows rape victims are dragged through the mud for having the gall to report the crime. You're one of the few people who seems to not only endorse this heinous tactic but to downright enjoy it. You deserve all the scorn you heap upon yourself.
I would say that a majority of rape/sexual assault cases against celebrities are complete B.S. The female is in a position to either gain attention or money. Either way, history has shown that rape cases against persons of high status prove to be false. Is it fair for me to assume that this girl is part of the majority? No. Should I give her a chance? Yes. But, I still base my opinion on the past and she and her team have to come up with enough evidence to prove otherwise. Kobe has a lot to lose with these allegations. I feel bad for anyone that has so much at stake and could possibly lose it because someone is craving for attention. My opinion stands. Im sorry if you have such hatred for me after that comment. If thats not sensitive, I dont know what is. As far as "not guilty" not being the same as innocent....I acknowledged that long ago. I said earlier that I was purely discussing the outcome of this trial. I also said that I have no clue what happened in that room. Only problem is that the D.A. has a lot of work on his hands and many, many things have to go his way for Kobe to be found guilty. I have not backtracked at all. Im still willing to bet with anyone...25 to 1 odds.
Rezdawg, I was finished with this thread, but one of the girls to whom I had earlier alluded asked me a poignant question while we were taking them home. She asked, " If the sister of this man (Rezdawg) were raped by a sports icon client in her office with no witnesses, would he (Rezdawg) later tell her (and I paraphrase), "Sister, you are a 'Ho.' You threw yourself at him because he is a star worth millions upon millions and you could damage his reputation if you said anything." This little girl (15) is still refreshingly naive. She doesn't know anything about client privilege, does she? Also, what if Anna kournakova had gone to Kobe's room instead of this non-famous 19-year-old and received a torn ligament in a struggle with a Kobe Bryant in heat. While treating her, would you admonish her for being a "ho" or would her celebrity status button your lips? I guess Bryan'ts endorsement dollars are bigger so you would call her a star-struck money grubber groupie.
!!NEWSFLASH!! OJ Simpson reportely call up Kobe Bryant and told him that they together will go find "The Real Rapist!"
http://www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naaFalse.html An alarming national trend: False Rape Allegations Eugene J. Kanin, Ph.D. Department of Sociology and Anthropology, Purdue University
CNN SUNDAY MORNING Charges Filed Against Bryant Surprise Ex-Girlfriend Aired July 20, 2003 - 07:08 ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Many perceived Bryant as having a squeaky clean image and they were shocked to hear the sexual assault charges against him. That includes an ex-girlfriend. Tricia Takasugi of our affiliate station, KTTV, talked to her. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) KOBE BRYANT, LOS ANGELES LAKERS, NBA: I sit here before you guys, embarrassed and ashamed for committing adultery. TRICIA TAKASUGI, KTTV CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Jameina Williams maybe one of the few people who was not surprised at Kobe Bryant's admission of marital infidelity. JAMEINA WILLIAMS, DATED KOBE BRYANT: When Kobe admitted to having an affair with this young lady it did not surprise me whatsoever, because he is an honest person. And honest people, when they make a mistake, they do come forward and tell the truth. TAKASUGI: Williams says she dated Kobe Bryant for several months in 1997, when he was still new to the Lakers. Now, she is shocked at the allegations of forcible sexual assault against a 19-year-old Colorado hotel employee. BRYANT: I didn't force her to do anything against her will. WILLIAMS: He's never been aggressive or forceful. He's a very courteous, kind -- he's a gentleman. Kobe definitely knows that no means no. He would not -- if you tell him no, he will not move forward or attempt to persuade you into doing something you're not interested in doing. TAKASUGI: Although it's been several years since Williams has had contact with Bryant, she believes he hasn't changed much. WILLIAMS: He was such a sweet, nice gentleman. I can't see him changing his demeanor just because of the money, the fame, you know? I don't see that happening to him. He was always rooted in his background and a family person. TAKASUGI: Williams says Bryant is innocent and she's even willing to testify as a character witness. But perhaps more importantly... WILLIAMS: I'm keeping him in my prayers.
Good find but what if this isn't a false alarm? This doesn't fall under every person. Anyway, Kobe is in for one hell of a ride and the dude deserve what he gets. Quilty in the first degree for cheating and lying and preying on young girl!
