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Trade Glen Rice for ... Who?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Do WHAT?, Jul 20, 2003.

  1. Do WHAT?

    Do WHAT? Member

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    With Glen Rice's contract off the books next year, the Rockets will still be over the salary cap. Should the Rockets trade Rice to a team trying to clear cap space?

    Would Atlanta trade Abdur-Rahim?
    What about Chicago trading Jalen Rose?
    Would Miami trade Eddie Jones?
    Dale Davis would look good in a Rockets uniform.
    And I know this one is CRAZY, but would the Raptors be willing to start over and trade Vince Carter?

    Man-I wish the season would start already..........
     
  2. redgoose

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    Correct me if i'm wrong, but how will we be over the cap? Especially with Rice coming off it?:confused:
     
  3. LAfadeaway33

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    I may be missing something but it seems to me that if we're over the cap when Rice's contract is up, we'll be even more over the cap if we trade him for someone with a few years remaining. I'm not so sure management is up for that.
     
  4. LAfadeaway33

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    Steve's max contract kicks in.
     
  5. Bob

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    I don't understand your question. Any trade we could faciltate would only increase our salary cap number in future years.

    More importantly the Rockets need to stop signing players to contracts double or triple of the players value.

    If the Rockets traded Rice to a team under the cap for a quality player with $4 million salary that would be great. But why would that team do it? It's not likely to happen.
     
  6. redgoose

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    I keep forgetting about that. Can't wait for Yao to get that max contract also. At least we have a couple more years for that one.

    So then why would we trade Rice again....lol
     
  7. silent j

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    The reason a team in our situation would trade an expiring contract is this:

    If we let the contract expire, we lose a 24-28 minute per game player and the only way to replace him is by using exception money. Exception money doesn't count against the cap, but it does count agianst the luxury tax.
    If we trade him now for $9 million worth of bench players whose contracts expire later, we don't have to use exception money next year and that could save as much as 6.5 million ( 4.9 mce, 1.5 vet exception).
    Also the more players we have under contract, the more tradeable assetts we have if we feel like we need to go out and get someone else next year.
    j
     
  8. CriscoKidd

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    if Rice is a 24-28 minute per game player for us then we're in more trouble than I thought.
     
  9. silent j

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    We're in more trouble than you thought, at least until we sign Posey and a backup 2 guard, because right now he's our starting 3.
    And you really don't pay someone 9 mil to be the 10-12 guy on your bench. If he's not a rotation guy, he has to be moved to a team who will have cap space next year.
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  10. CriscoKidd

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    He might be a starter right now, but only a paper one. Even if Posey wasn't resigned they would bring in some scrub so they wouldn't have to rely on rice to play 24-28 min a game.

    10-15 mpg is more reasonable for a no d playing 3 point specialist, if even that.
     
  11. jev5555

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    2nd round pick?
     
  12. ROXTXIA

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    I honestly believe that we will not trade Rice. After the season, Les said the luxury tax would be no impediment to improving the team. Now it seems it will be.
     
  13. Bob

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    I have no clue what your trying to say.

    Are you trying to say:
    (1) we trade Rice for 3-4 scrubs and then cut them and that adds 10 mil to our caproom for the next 2-6 years aka Matt Maloney. (2) Then next year we use the MCE to pickup a vet.

    At first glance I would say these are mutually exclusive points. But they are not. We can sign someone at the MCE regardless of the situation with Rice. We can do that now. But you know the Rockets won't because after signing Posey we will be at the luxury tax threshold.

    Only after Rice's contract expires will there be room to use the MCE. If we pickup 10 million of contracts by trading away Rice then for sure the Rockets won't use the MCE because it would exceed the luxury tax.
     
  14. win14me

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    Glen Rice and Moochie Norris for Damon Stoudamire

    We delay our cap space from Rice's contract for a year in return for taking on one of Portland's problems and end up with more cap space later on. They have to take on Moochie's contract and Moochie promises to not cause trouble.

    Doesn't make a great deal of sense, but everyone else is doing it.
     
  15. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Trade him for a bag of Dorritos, or maybe a box of Crackerjacks...
     
  16. jopatmc

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    Impossible trade. He done ate the Dorritos and 2 boxes of Crackerjacks......
     
  17. TedRuxpin

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    Sam Mack anyone?> I noticed he was putting up all the numbers for his spl team.
     
  18. pasox2

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    GR will be a hot property come the deadline.

    All of the trades you mentioned are feasible - even Carter - given the right scenario. GR also could figure into a Clips or Heat deal, or as a lux relief contract in a move with a lux-burdened team (see Portland, NY, Dallas). Hang on. It'll happen soon enough; but probably not till the deadline.

    Alternatively, Less could hold on, let the contract go, and save a few bucks. I just don't see that, so long as we stay under the lux.
    That means - no big money for Poesy or any FA. Keep it small - we're ok at the deadline for trades.
     
  19. Darrinlane

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    What everyone fails to realise....like SA fans....is that we need whatever $$$$$$ to resign our own players. Yao will need big bucks in the future(max money). Our owner seems relunctant to go over the cap. Better keep the $ for something we need.





    I'm drunk...so ignore the msipelligns:) :) :)
     
  20. ricerocket

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    Rice will be a good rotation player this year. His shooting numbers were good as the season went on. As Yao commands the middle watch him flou5rish on the open outside shots. He'll probably have a contract year and resign for the veteran's minimum or slightly above.
     

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