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What does it take for an official to get fired?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jimmy Chitwood, Mar 4, 2015.

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  1. rocketsballin

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  2. rocketmc

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    Well if we know the refs are against us then we should try to at least a 10 point lead with 2 mins left in every game.
     
  3. BamBam

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    LOL...Nice! Hard to believe so many members can't see the sarcasm!

    You can also add that time had run out!...;)




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  4. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm a ref, not for basketball, and being a ref is a pretty hard and thankless job. Stuff happens incredibly fast and as a ref you aren't seeing things from the same POV as people do in the stands and especially on TV. I agree that was a blown call but I think calling for refs' heads is too much of a knee jerk reaction. The unfortunate truth is that refs make mistakes all the time.

    I think if you can show a continual and egregious pattern of terrible calls on the part of a ref then you can sow incompetence and get a ref removed. Otherwise showing flat out corruption like Tim Donaghy. I think making a few occasional bad calls shouldn't be basis for removing a ref even though it sucks to be on the wrong end of the call.
     
  5. Ariza4MVP

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    All the problems of the nba can be solved by suspending and not paying people that do things that are not in the best interest of the league.

    You flop? You get one warning, then one game suspension without pay, and it doubles every time you do it again.

    You call a questionable technical foul that the league rescinds? That ref pays the fine

    You make a call at the end of the game that is terrible? Lose your salary for that game.

    You make a terrible call that affects the playoff seeding? You will not participate in one playoff game that year.

    Additionally, players and coaches should be able to hold a vote and remove any ref they deem bad at any time.
     
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    The red flags for me are the fact that the Rockets got only 5 FTs for the entire game vs. the 17 attempts for the Grizzlies, Karl Lane reffing both last night and the game at Chicago where the Rockets also only got 5 FTs, Harden only getting to the line twice, and Courtney Lee getting a foul call and 2 FTs on the other end with just over a minute to go when the game was tied.

    If there was consistency throughout the game, then I'd be less inclined to p-ss all over the refs. But there wasn't. The Grizzlies got 12 more FTs than the Rockets despite this being played in H-Town. Lee got the benefit of the doubt with a minute left and the game on the line, so clearly the refs were afraid to make a call late. And it's not like Harden was living at the foul line all night. He'd only been there twice.

    Bottom line, it was not a well-officiated game, particularly on that last play. The irony is the refs try to avoid deciding games at the end by allowing more contact than usual. Yet by ignoring a blatant hack by Z-Bo, they in effect DID decide the game in the worst way imaginable.
     
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    Harden getting fouled only ONCE is a joke! His game is tailor made to get fouls and get to the foul line! That's why he leads the league in free throw attempts and free throws made! Having the same ref on both the Bulls/Grizzlies losses, losses where a huge disparity in free throw attempts is the main reason for the loss IS A RED FLAG! SMH...losing faith in the system!
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    From my understanding one of the refs officiated the Hawks game where we only had 5 free throws the whole game. The officiating has been horrible since the Cleveland game. There are horrible calls all throughout NBA games. But why is it they keep screwing us in the 4th quarter? People keep saying "you don't get those calls in the 4th quarter". But Lebron had no problem getting them last time we play Cleveland
     
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    Joey Crawford could dry hump Jack Nicholson in the first row and he wouldn't get fired.

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    Yep, only league where refs are openly buddy-buddy with players and coaches alike.n have you ever seen NFL refs give hugs to players before a game? A league where refs are voted on for the playoffs and championships by coaches? Ask george karl what he thinks about refereeing in this game. Their job is to uphold the integrity of the game. When we as fans spend billions of dollars on this product, we are allowed to demand integrity. However, we as a society have lost our cojones to effect change.. Voting boycotting etc. Why? The media IS monopolized and we dont effectively have a voice.
     
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    The Cavs game was a mess on both sides. But at least Harden got 18 FTs that game. And the Rockets went to the line overall more than Cleveland. It's hard to think of that one as a screwjob. Last night though with a 17-5 FT disparity and Harden getting nothing at the end while Lee got 2 FTs on far less contact a minute earlier is inexcusable.
     
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    We need to start a movement to get Karl Lane fired or to never officiate another rockets game again. Let's not let this go clutchfans!
     
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    Jeez, give it a rest. The game was decided on more than just that one play.

    Such whiners here.
     
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    It is what it is. Y'all don't complain when Harden gets to the line about 16 times a game on some ticky tacky fouls and yet one decision against the Rockets and you want everyone fired.

    In sports, I have always believed that calls and decisions even themselves out over the long run.

    Only way to not let these calls affect you is to not let the game get so close. Blow the other team out fo your home court.

    Quit whining and move on.
     
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    Sheats been going on for years bro. Here is some solid reporting on it:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DWNAOYOn3vw
     
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    It's a screw job because they'll call bad calls on both sides for 3 1/2 quarters, then favor one team down stretch. The only thing they can't control is teams making runs. However, they can attempt to slow another teams momentum with highly questionable calls (Dmo's technical vs Hawks). The refs have more control than you think. They are better at hiding it than you think also. The refs GAVE that game to Lebron down the stretch against us. Had he made those free throws and they beat us the ESPN headlines read "King James shows Harden who the REAL MVP IS". IMO the media was mad we won because we took away their storyline. The refs play into these storylines
     
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    You're absolutely right! The game was decided 5 seconds later AFTER the blown no call!...:rolleyes:

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    Yes, the refs blew that non-call against Harden...

    But I really hate that our fanbase is whining so much about it. Why do we hate j*zz and mavprick fans so much? Because all they do is whine about the refs when they lose......

    Come on, guys. We're better than this.
     
  19. count_dough-ku

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    C'mon, that's ridiculous to say the answer is to simply blow out the opposing team. Do you watch the NBA on a regular basis? Tons of games come down to the final minute(or seconds). Even when a good team plays a crappy one(see OKC vs. Philly yesterday). And certainly when good teams play each other as was the case last night(not to mention the previous time the Grizzlies and Rockets met).

    Do bad calls and non-calls even out over time? Mostly. I'd agree with that. But with bad ones at the end of games, that tends to not be the case. Usually one team gets screwed and that's the end of it. The screwed team may still manage to pull out the W, but it's in spite of the refs.

    Maybe I'm giving the officiating crew last night too much of the benefit of the doubt, but I think they didn't wanna have the game decided on free throws and figured with a tie game that the odds were much greater that it would go to OT(where the players would presumably decide the outcome) than be won on a last second shot. The problem is Gasol hit that gamewinner and now it looks like the refs basically handed them the victory.
     
  20. justtxyank

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    The blown call was egregious, but that wouldn't necessarily have won the game for us.

    The bigger issue was the defense collapsing down the stretch, the effort level disappearing (McHale was furious) and the inability for this team to run an offense with Harden off the court.
     

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