Source: Texans plan to cut Andre Johnson if he refuses pay cut

Let's compare starting QBs and WRs in the championship games...

 

They are both overrated positions. When you keep getting guys like Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, Colin Kaepernick, and Eli Manning in the SB year after year it shows that QB isn't THAT big a factor in team success yet to some that's all that matters. If the idea that an elite QB was the most important part of a team was accurate, you'd have Brady, Rodgers, Manning (the good one), and Brees in the SB every single year yet they routinely lose out to teams with lesser QB's. The reason IMO that QB is a much more overrated position is because of how ridiculously high it is rated by the general population, if WR was rated that highly then I'd agree with you.

 

It is easier to cover up deficiencies at other positions. Yet it is one lf the deepest positions with roughly half the league above a 90 QBrating.

But yes I agree with you. Wouldn't trade JJ Watt for any QB.

 

And what did they gain by not trading him last year besides extra cap space for a none-playoff year...???

If they would have traded him last year and addressed the WR position in last year's draft (even if they would have drafted someone in the 2nd round) they would have cap space, draft pick(s), and his replacement ready to go for this season.

 

Hopefully, nice waste of cap space for a division rival and I don't think he adds anything to that team since he can't protect luck or tackle.

Also, it would be great to get our first win in Indy with AJ on their sideline. I would love it!!!

 

But you're not seeing Kyle Orton, Matt Cassel, Chad Henne qb's in championship games. I think thats the point there. QBs picked below 2nd round dont have good track records of postseason success compared to high round picks.

1 Great QB + 2 Average WRs > 1 Average QB + 2 Great WRs

(there are exceptions of course)

 

Technically, the Pats have shown 1 great QB + 10 other guys >>> 11 JJ Watts

 

alright, i'm over it. let the labhart era commence!

 

No, they've shown that Belicheck is better than any other coach today... and that is worth more than QB's, DE's or WR's combined.

 

Colts need serious help on D.

I could see him going to Pats. They always have cap flexibility and are looking to pick up good players for cheap

 

Year after year?

Since 2002:
Brady/PManning/Rodgers/Brees = 11 SB appearances
All other QBs* in the NFL = 15

* I'm not counting Kurt Warner, who I'd personally label elite, certainly in 2002.

That's a ridiculous standard; it's still a team game. But at least three of those QBs are in the playoffs literally every single year - Rodgers has gone six straight years; Brady 11; Manning 12. Collectively, since 2002, they've missed one postseason (Rodgers' rookie season in '08). And the 4th (Brees, who I think is a notch below those three) goes more often (5 times) than not (4). That must just be a coincidence...

Reread the doom and gloom in these threads and tell me the general population doesn't overrate WR. We have people literally arguing that without Andre Johnson, Deandre Hopkins will regress and that WR should now be our tip-top priority - even over, aheam, QB...

 

We have a winner.

 

Hilarious that the Texans get ridiculed all these years for being "too loyal" and not having the stones to make harsh "realistic" decisions... then the second they do (which isn't really all that "harsh"), the complaints start flowing.

At the very least, BOB won't just be unconditionally loyal to his "guys"... he may not ever have a "guy" that allows personal feelings to get in the way of business decisions, and that's a good thing.

 

Belichick's record without Brady is good not great. Watch what happens when Brady eventually does retire.

An idiot can win a SB. **** Barry Switzer won a SB. Let that sink in... On the BBall front, Westhead won a championship for god sakes.

 

I'm not arguing that people don't overrate the WR spot, I'm merely pointing out that they also greatly overrate the QB spot too.

 

They *have* his replacement: Deandre Hopkins is set to become an elite WR. And AJ wasn't tradeable last offseason for the same reason he's not tradeable this offseason: his contract is an albatross.

Please stop posting this nonsense.

 

Who is complaining about this move? Its right for both sides

 

A ton of people... on every page... in three separate threads in this forum (where the same thing is being discussed... four if you include the draft trade currently complaining that we now have to get a WR).

It is unconditionally the right move... even if AJ80 was an even more accomplished Texan (like Emmit Smith level, or Jerry Rice level, or Joe Montana level).

 

scary thought. AJ goes to Colts next season. They have cap room, he has ties to Chuck, he knows the division, they have easiest path to playoffs, they have a stud QB, they may have a need at WR if Wayne retires, even worse if he doesn't retire. they'll be in position to draft either of the top 2 runningbacks, he won't have to worry about being shut down by Vontae Davis...

 

Its not?

He's coached teams that went to conference championship games with Vinny Testaverde.

He's coached teams that won Super Bowls with Jeff Hosteler and Phil Simms at QB (and don't start with the "but Parcells was coach" bit as those teams beat offensive juggernauts in Buffalo and San Fran solely due to his game plans... HE was being carried off the field for christs sake).

And for recent results, he went 11-5 with Matt Cassel the year Brady tore his ACL.

Sure... but no coach has ever had an ELITE team for almost 15 straight seasons... not in the old NFL and especially not in today's NFL.

If I had to bet on who'd have more success without the other, I'm going all-in on Belicheck.