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specific university or specific degree

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  1. CCorn

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    They were working hard to establish a better networking community with state when I went there...

    Really all we had were similar doctors that wrote our Valtrax prescriptions.
     
  2. dmenacela

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    Your question is vague since a specific university or specific degree can both get you a job. What is it that you're trying to do?

    And I don't believe it's just one or the other, you can also get into a lesser prestigious school and transfer later. Look at all your options.
     
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    I still recommend UT. Now here's what you can do if you start off in the College of Liberal Arts:

    1. You can do Economics. There is an Economics to Business program that allows Econ. students to take business classes.
    2. You can do the Business Foundations program. The Business Foundations Program (BFP) allows you to take 24 hours of business classes. Another bonus is that these classes are usually easier than normal business classes at UT, so they could boost your GPA.
    3. You might find that you don't even like business. In that case, you stay in Liberal Arts or attempt to transfer to Engineering, Communication, etc.

    If you decide you want to transfer from liberal arts into McCombs, you will need a 3.7 GPA or higher if I were to guess.
     
  5. DudeWah

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    This is not true at all and really grinds my gears when people say this.

    All you need is a tangible skill set and specific knowledge that not many other people have that sets you apart from the competition. That's what you need.
     
  6. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Non-Profit School > No Degree > Ex-Convict > For Profit School
     
  7. Hustle Town

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    He's right. Academically, every college at UT is going to outrank Texas State and St. Edwards. From a networking standpoint, it's not even close. UT alumni are in top industries in countries around the world; there's a much more global focus. If you go to Texas State or St. Edward's, don't expect to get a job more than 250 miles away from campus.
     
  8. arjun

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    for grad school...focus on school ranking
     
  9. rimrocker

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    1. Go to Texas.
    2. Learn how to think.
    3. Kick ass.
    4. Get ass.
    5. Profit.
     
  10. SC1211

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    UT. Liberal arts is fine, just get good internships if you want to go into the corporate world.
     
  11. Panda23

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    university of sydney
     
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    but basically to get into top tier jobs in terms of starting salary, you're looking at IBS, then Local banks then Big4 etc.

    Generally Gpa you at least need a credit but in order to get goldman Sachs etc youll need distinction average and be at a usyd/unsw and be studying comm/law/lib. Very rare for it to happen otherwise, but then again when you're walking into a 100k grad job the competition is high
     
  13. torocan

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    If you're talking about Liberal arts vs a business bachelors, I'd say go to the better school. There's a few reasons for this...

    1) You can always change majors. You can start in Liberal arts then apply for a business degree in the area of your choice.
    2) You can always double-major for a business + another degree. Work hard, make sure you get all the required coursework done and you're set.
    3) If you're really serious about business you can always complete your liberal arts degree and then do a MBA at another school.
    4) You can always transfer schools if you find that you can't get into the program you want assuming you put up good enough grades and have the appropriate prerequisites.

    That said, regardless of what degree you pursue if you're serious about business make sure you don't neglect mathematics, and whatever you do make sure you take statistics and accounting (and excel at them). Economics is a good idea, but unless you're planning on being an economist there's no need to take much more than introductory to intermediate economics.

    Let me once again mention Accounting. Accounting is a course that is often neglected even among business grads. The ability to read and interpret spreadsheets and financial statements is a critical skill in business, as is the ability to formulate, manage and monitor budgets. You would be amazed at how many "business" grads aren't good with spreadsheets or financial statements.

    As for the importance of statistics, there are multiple reasons why having a decent background in statistics is important.

    -Risk management. Risk management is a field of expertise that is useful in virtually all forms of business. Even if your particular area of expertise doesn't demand the ability to manage risk as a job requirement, risk management grants skills that are advantageous in decision making in most every facet of business. The ability to quantify, analyze and mitigate risk is appreciate in almost every form of enterprise whether public, private or entrepreneurial.

    -Risk/reward assessment. The ability to judge the nature of risk and weigh that effectively against profit and investment is a valuable skill set that is central to the function of effective management. The folks who sell you mutual funds often toss around the idea of higher risk being inherent to higher reward, however it is ability to find reward that is disproportionate to the level of risk that often generates the greatest reward. It is the ability to assess the risk and reward of individual actions that is integral to formulate decisions of resource allocation.

    -Information assessment. In management you will be presented with a lot of data. The ability to parse that data and determine it's validity and applicability is an important part of being effective. If you are presented with market data, the ability to understand the methodology and applicability of that data is as important as the data itself. When you are making decisions regarding the allocation of manpower and money it's important that you understand the limitations of the data that you are using as the basis of those decisions. It's tougher to justify going against the current when you don't fully understand the information in front of you.

    However, all that being said the most important thing in terms of going to College is that you make the MOST of your time at college. Work hard, make sure you learn everything that you can, and get the best grades that are reasonable (if you graduate with anything over a 3.5 GPA, most grad schools will be open to you -- you'll need to do 3.7 or better if you're targeting a top 10 grad school ala Harvard, Stanford, etc, etc).

    Don't neglect the college experience. Most will only go through college once, so make sure to use the opportunity to expand your horizons. Network, have some fun, and make make wise use of your time to do things like investigate your future vocation. Ask your professors and alumni about the nature of the field you want to pursue to make sure that it's what you really want to do. That last thing you want to do is decide upon graduation that you really, really hate the job you were dreaming about for the last 4-5 years. Don't be afraid to take on internships either during the school year or in the summer so that you can get a taste of the field you want to enter.

    Finally, do NOT forget that College is the best opportunity you are likely to ever have to meet a significant other. Forced socialization for long hours (classes, dorms and study groups) with a large number of the opposite sex, the majority of whom are single just doesn't happen outside of an academic environment. In terms of dating, it will never be better for the rest of your life.

    When you're in your 20's and in the work force, you won't have a lot of time for dating since you'll be working long hours simply trying to establish yourself and gain experience. It goes by fast. And if you're traveling for work good luck building and maintaining any sort of stable social life.

    Before you know it you'll be in your late 20's or early 30s and suddenly most of the people you meet are either in long term relationships, married and having children, or going through divorces/break ups and either have children or are carrying emotional scars from relationships that have gone bad.

    College is one of the last times that you'll truly be free to work entirely on yourself both academically and personally without demands from employers, clients, suppliers, employees, etc. At least until you're gray haired and retiring.

    Enjoy it while you're there, take advantage of all the resources and opportunities, and don't take it for granted. You'll never go through an experience like college ever again.
     
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  14. Rizzy

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    This. Went to UT, majored in Economics, completed Business Foundations, participated in a few social clubs/activities, networked, and now I'm in Houston working in O&G. Can't complain.

    torocan nailed it. College is the prime-time of your life. Take chances, have fun, and make the most of it. Especially in Austin, I miss that city.
     

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