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[USA Today] Goran Dragic tells Suns he won't re-sign after season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jaychi, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Absolutely stunning news that we are not one of the seven teams he wants to be traded to. Geez. I could understand if it was new York and la as the preferred but when the list is seven deep and we still are t on it? That hurts breh
     
  2. shastarocket

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    How does the top dog argument make sense when the Knicks and heat are two of his top three destinations? If you assume that Kobe retires in a year or two, the Lakers can make sense. However, Melo is far from retirement age and "Wade county" belongs to the greatest player in their franchise's history first and Bosh second.

    If you ask me, the bev angle is much more important than we think.
     
  3. jedicro

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    I'm not going to read through 15 pages (at work), but the reason Harden has the ball so much is because we have no one else to run the offense. Dragic would have a big role while Harden is on the floor (though secondary), and he would run the offense by himself for 10-15 minutes a night.

    It works in OKC. There is no reason it can't work here...and we don't even have a Reggie Jackson trying to showcase his talents. It would be the Gogi show when Harden sits.
     
  4. jedicro

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    Also, Dragic is not worth the max in a vacuum, but he is worth the max here. This is the Bosh/Parsons situation all over again. Neither Bosh nor Parsons were worth what we were offering/were willing to match. But we were willing to overpay both of them to put together a super-team. Getting Dragic would be an even better version of that team.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    That is only half true, Harden needs the ball to be effective, the better type of player for the Rox would be a Kenny Smith type at PG.

    DD
     
  6. count_dough-ku

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    Yeah, that tweet about Bev having the same agent makes me very suspicious. We saw how Fegan reportedly screwed around with the Rockets' situation with Parsons when Dwight decided to come here. It's certainly possible these agents don't want Dragic and Bev on the same roster because it'll reduce the combined salaries they'll receive this offseason(even if they wind up on different teams).

    Although if that's the real hangup, it can be easily addressed. Just deal Bev to another team in a separate deal after trading for Dragic. Then both of them get playing time, both can get nice fat contracts this summer, the Rockets get something for Bev before he inevitably walks anyway, and the a-hole agents won't lose out on their precious commission.
     
  7. malakas

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    Agents are the ones doing the real business. I think a past gm of the knicks even resigned becauze of the agents commanding who gets traded and signed.
     
  8. FTW Rockets FTW

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    I don't blame Dragic here. Any player worth a dime has an ego and rightly so especially a top player like Dragic. Dude was trashed by Morey like the dog poo you find on Louisiana St. and now we are begging him to come back. Unless you're a grade A scrub like Dorsey, those things are unacceptable to a top end player. Same with Lowry but at elast with Lowry we used the pick for Harden.
     
  9. arno_ed

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    You are aware that he signed with Phoenix after Phoenix traded him and a first round pick for Brooks. Talk about disrespecting.
     
  10. jedicro

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    He needs the ball to be most effective, but he would still be very effective playing off Dragic more than he plays off anyone now. His numbers would go down, but who cares about that. We absolutely need a secondary creator. We will go nowhere without one.
     
  11. malakas

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    Arr u aware the one getting more screwed right now from dragic is phoenix? So revenge..??
     
  12. jedicro

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    Morey didn't trash him. Morey wanted him to stay and made him a nice offer. But at the end of the day Morey didn't want to give a 4th year PO so he left. It's a business.

    If that's being "trashed like the dog poo you find on Louisiana St" then I'm really curious how you treat treat dog poo on Louisiana St.
     
  13. count_dough-ku

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    Ariza came back after we unceremoniously dealt him shortly after signing him to a big deal. And as others have mentioned, Dragic himself went back to Phoenix after they traded him. I think he needs to set his ego aside if that's what's going on here. Seriously, do Dragic and his agent not see how badly Morey wants to get him back? He's been trying all season to work out a deal with Phoenix.

    Honestly, I think the real factors here(aside from a bruised ego) are Dragic's desire to be in a big market where he'll have the ball primarily in his hands as well as his agent wanting to ensure that Bev's next contract isn't undermined by having to share minutes on the same team with Dragic. The latter can easily be worked out. Not sure about the former though.
     
  14. TexasRedd

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    So the Rockets aren't one of the teams he wants to be traded to?
     
  15. malakas

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    I dnt really believe this..but a theory that dragic remembers who treated him right and wrong and made him feel not wanted and is now making them pay can really be made here. Both suns and houston had their plans turned upside down because of him now and hes the one who finally has the absolute power for once..
     
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  16. FTW Rockets FTW

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    To all those above,

    When Dragic went back to Phoenix he was still trying to establish himself. He is now considered a stud PG and in many cases a top 10 PG. He is no longer the guy trying to make a name for himself. When he went back to Phoenix, all he had was 20 odd games of good performance as a Rocket when Lowry went down. Now the sample size is much bigger and his ego has been inflated. He wants to be the main guy in a big market.

    Ariza is a different case. Dude is hitting 30 and knows his best years are behind him. In addition he has never been the star or top end player that Dragic is right now.
     
  17. count_dough-ku

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    But Ariza didn't have to come back here. He could've resigned with the Wizards(I assume they didn't actually prefer Pierce over him). There were other teams who needed a 3 as well.

    As for Dragic, you're right. It sounds like he does wanna be "the man" in a big market. But the tradeoff there is he may be the #1 guy on a sh-tty team for the majority of the 4 or 5 years he plays there. The Knicks and Lakers have a long way to go before they're contenders again.
     
  18. stab

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    Damn, I look good...
     
  19. The Hunted

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    Harden to Dragic:


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  20. PrawnJ

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>ESPN sources say Celtics emerging as contender on the outside for Goran Dragic in trade with Phoenix</p>&mdash; Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/568042043227955200">February 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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