P.J. Brown stays with Hornets - Spurs and Mavs miss out AGAIN!

I officially write off any Western Conference team with the exception of a team named the Lakers. This is terrible. The moves made by LA has gotten FAs (especially Eastern FAs) scared sh!tless...it's sad.

 

Dumb Spurs instead of going for a big man at the begining, they focus completely on a guard when they already have one. Now they lose out on everybody. Their only hope is Michael Olawakani

 

The league is doing everything possible to get LA in the finals to recover from this past years terrible ratings

 

yes. yes. yes!

anything that helps the spurs not get better is a win-win situation in my book.

 

Rockets miss out too.

 

He would brought some toughness to the Rockets.

 

Brown would be a nice player, but that is at least double what he is worth over the life of the contract. The dude will be a worthless 9 million dolloar 38 year old cap eater when he finishs his contract. We are talking about a 9-8-1 PF (P/Rb/Bl) who can play good defense--nothing special.

 

Can the brotha get a amen!! While you mention the Spurs, how bout Dallas too? They both suck the big one.

 

I would say we are far from stacked at PF. Mo Taylor is good, but PJ Brown is everything Mo isn't. And as for Griffin, I don't think he will ever turn into the kind of player we all hope he will. He has disappointed me more than Cato over the last two seasons.

 

Kidd, O'Neal, Brown all pass on the Spurs.

Cap space is overrated as a cure-all in the NBA nowadays - "Lets get under the cap, and then sign some good free agents"

Cut to the summer.

"Rasho Nesterovic(or [Insert decent player here]) has signed a 4 year deal worth approximately $35 million dollars today with the [Insert Name of Team With Lots of Capspace And No One To Spend It On]"

The last team that actually succeeded with this game was the Los Angeles Lakers. That was seven summers ago, with another CBA.

 

Ravan i feel you about Griffin. But just wait im really thinking Griffin might still turn out to be something special. I think he is just naturally a really good player.

As we have heard a thousand times he just needs to get a bit smaller and a little motivation.

 

Hehe....Spers are freakin screwed man!

I knew everyone would turn down that dump ass city!

 

The Orlando Magic also succeeded with it in the summer of 2000 with Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady, although the Grant Hill experiment hasn't worked as well as hoped. Still, McGrady remains the most significant free-agent signee (technically, he was signed and traded by Toronto to Orlando. But, it was only for a first round draft pick, and two trades later, it was back with the Magic anyway.) under the CBA, with Hill the 2nd.`

 

I'm actually going to disagree with that. While they did sign McGrady, and he has proven to be a fortuituos pickup - has the the team done significantly better than they didd before they dumped all that salary to go after Hill and Duncan?

I don't necesarily think so - while they probably are better than they would be had they stayed pat, they did not "win" in the sense that they completely changed the fortunes of their team with one free agent signing.

 

thx for bringing this up Puedlfor.

I was thinking the same thing, and I'm not so sure Orlando was under the cap when they signed McGrady. So technically, their cap room produced Hill. But we could say that since they signed Hill, they were able to get McGrady.

Still, McGrady remains an anamoly because he had to get away from Vince to blossom. Most big time free agents don't have that type of competition on their own team for their position.

btw: what did our Dream windfall land us...MoT, Moochie and Rice, rather than Webber.

sigh

 

Well, had the Magic struck out and kept the status quo, they would have been left with an aging team with Bo Outlaw and Darrell Armstrong as it's leaders. Ron Mercer would've been the scorer - and he wasn't a good fit on the squad - and while Ben Wallace would've been around, does he develop like he did in Detroit?

It's not the two moves in free agency that turned the Magic's franchise around, but the entire season-plus of moves starting with the Horace Grant trade to Seattle for Maggette that broke up the Magic's roster and changed an entire franchise's fortunes. In the two summers, there were almost 50 deals involving the Magic, and the culmination of the quick rebuilding project involved signing McGrady and Hill.

hp - the Magic had the cap room to sign them both and did sign and trades only to allow both players to receive 7 year deals and 12.5% raises. They traded away Wallace and Atkins to get Hill, but both were also signed and traded and even with Bird rights, the total combined cap hit for the two was minimal. On the same day they signed Hill and McGrady, they had enough cap room to absorb the difference in salary between Matt Harpring and Andrew DeClercq, so I feel pretty confident in that the Magic had the cap room to outright sign both players.

In terms of players who moved away and were able to blossom - McGrady's not the only one. Jermaine O'Neal is another. I don't disagree that it is slightly anamolous (nor that putting all of your hopes in the free agency market is not the way to go), but both are a bit more common and the latter can be a bit more successful than perceived.

 

Don't be so sure.