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Drafting a superstar in the 2nd round

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by omgTHEpotential, Feb 1, 2015.

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  1. RiceRockets

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    Yep in their prime that is an awesome starting 5.
     
    #21 RiceRockets, Feb 2, 2015
  2. Pirytic

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    Yes it is because over time the term "superstar" gets more and more overused, and attenuated.

    Possiblility of drafting a true superstar in the 2nd round is very low. Possibility of drafting a very good player is average-above average.
     
    #22 Pirytic, Feb 2, 2015
  3. OremLK

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    According to Mark Cuban, Chandler Parsons... ;)
     
    #23 OremLK, Feb 2, 2015
  4. Swag

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    i mean we got nick johnson...
     
    #24 Swag, Feb 2, 2015
  5. daywalker02

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    Possibility of drafting a borderline allstar, one time or two time allstar is
    very low

    Possibility of drafting a superstar - 1 in a million years or nothing
     
    #25 daywalker02, Feb 2, 2015
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    Jimmy Butler was close to being a second rounder.
     
    #26 Tom Bombadillo, Feb 2, 2015
  7. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Who the F is Tom Brady? Never heard of him before.

    Did he play for the Lakers or Celtics?
     
    #27 FTW Rockets FTW, Feb 2, 2015
  8. ooooaaaah!

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    Let me guess, you promise that within 5 years he will be in jail.
     
    #28 ooooaaaah!, Feb 2, 2015
  9. JuanValdez

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    This -- a raw international player that some team took a flyer on who comes over years later after some Euro experience. Even there though, the scouting is probably too good.
     
    #29 JuanValdez, Feb 2, 2015
  10. lakersuck

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    Back in the day maybe but nowadays modern scouting is just too good to let superstar level talent slip that far. People saw what Manu/Gasol/Arenas etc have done and pay more attention in scouting than they have in the past.
     
    #30 lakersuck, Feb 2, 2015
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    Manu, at his best, was definitely elite.
     
    #31 Williamson, Feb 2, 2015
  12. omgTHEpotential

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    Elite? Yes. Superstar? Not in my book. I define 'SUPERSTAR' as a truly transcendent player (Duncan, LBJ, Durant, Davis etc.).
     
    #32 omgTHEpotential, Feb 2, 2015
  13. omgTHEpotential

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    Also, let me clarify. I'm saying I don't think Manu was a superstar in the NBA. He definitely was a superstar internationally. He's a lock for HOF for his international career alone.
     
    #33 omgTHEpotential, Feb 2, 2015
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    I think Arenas at his (short-lived) peak was a household name. He was going toe-to-toe with Lebron in those playoff series, and his blog on NBA.com was wildly entertaining for quite a while. He was one of the most entertaining players at the time, and I think he had a case for being one of the top 10 to 15 players in the NBA.
     
    #34 Pest_Ctrl, Feb 2, 2015
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    I think some of y'all forget how great Gilbert was in his short-lived prime. Could consistently carry the Wiz to victory throughout the course of the season
     
    #35 brooksstephens, Feb 2, 2015
  16. TheRealAllpro

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    OMG I hope not but what's the best predictor of future behavior? Past behavior.
     
    #36 TheRealAllpro, Feb 2, 2015
  17. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Arenas was about as close to superstar as you can get for a few years
     
    #37 K-Low_4_Prez, Feb 2, 2015
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    Wait a minute... is Hassan Whiteside now considered a superstar? With 9.1 ppg and 7.7 rpg after playing half a season on a mediocre team?
     
    #38 ghettocheeze, Feb 2, 2015
  19. joeson332

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    We did draft Chandler Parons guyse
     
    #39 joeson332, Feb 2, 2015
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    obviously meant to spell Parsons -___________________________- #noob
     
    #40 joeson332, Feb 2, 2015
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