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Just want to do whats best for the team? Here's my freaking suggestion

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CBrownFanClub, Jan 18, 2001.

  1. CBrownFanClub

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    Get healthy, get in shape, get on the plane, suit up, play some defense, get some rebounds, pass the ball, shoot the ball, shut up, finish the season and retire.

    The thing is, Hakeem -- and you can glean this by reading his book -- has as much pride and ego as he does class and dignity. He is a character guy, to be sure. He is also positively sure he is right 100% percent of the time.

    The thing is, to contradicting things are coming out of his mouth. Clearly the Rockets first choice is not to trade him/drop him. Bad manageent, bad PR, bad basketball, bad karma.

    But Hakeem wants out, to play somewhere else for whatever reason. Which, in my opinon, is a blow a the team which -- despite some mistakes -- has lavished praise and honor and thanks upon Hakeem for a brilliant one-team career.

    Hakeem complaining and trying to work a trade in the name of "whats best for the team" is almost hilarious. What the hell does he think he is, the Giving Tree? "Please, Trade me, I will play out my career in Denver if only to improve the Rockets Win-Loss Record by three games." Give me a break, Dream -- no one buys it. Take the PR hit if you really want out of the marriage.

    The point is, trying to calculate Hakeem's impact on this sport, franchise, city etc. is impossible. It is too big to figure out. The man is bigger to Houston than Jordan is to Chicago, in my opinion. He stands alone here. College, pro, everything. He is as much a part of the city as the light-orange colored night sky, crappy construction work and cheap food.

    But I personally think he is freaking out about retiring (very human thing to do) and obviously he is misguided in his attempt to squeeze the Rockets into trading him, to juice a few more hoops from his already aching body. Its fine, people freak out.

    But I dont think the Rockets should sink to his level, so to speak, and freak out with him. He committed to playing here till the end of the season, we committed to paying him till then -- I say we keep him and let him sort himself out. He is not a fossill we keep around just to look at. He plays when he is healthy. Well, pretty much. (Actually, I might kill two birds with one stone by playing him in crunch time more often becase a) we should b) he'd shut up. But thats a different thread)

    Does anyone, anywhere think it is a good idea for Hakeem to wear a Suns or Heat uniform and give his career one last shot? Hell no. I can think of no one who has said, "yeah, how triumphant and satisfying ti would be, to see Hakeem Olajuwon run out there another couple of years. with some other team." Everyone wants to see him retire, not just on a sentimental level, but because he is not a dominant player anymore. He is not humble enough to be a role player. And he is not good enough to be a franchise player.

    Thats old news, of course. But we should not play part in playing his delusional game and sending him elsewhere. Even if he wants it. I cant see why we would want to participate in that.

    Here is my question: Does it benefit the Rockets in any way shape or form to release him rather than wait until the end of the season and complete the contract?

    If it is just to appease unhappy Hakeem, I say we blow the whole thing off and treat him like any disgruntled player -- listen, communicate, do your best. People have talked about the pros and cons of waiving him, but I cant sort them out to any satisfactory conclusion. I can not see it helping us anymore than keeping the cap space. More obviously, we need him this year. He's playing better. Not so well that we should bench Steve Francis, but well enough to contribute.

    I mean, cripes, franchise players come around once in a blue moon. But so do Salary Cap Bonanza summers like the Rockets are gearing up for.

    Keep him, play him how we need to, and thank him to death even if he is slightly unreceptive.

    Live with it, Dream. You are stuck with us. And we are stuck with you.

    And frankly, from our side, we would have it no other way, you pain-in-the-ass-genius.

    We love you Dream -- always have, always will. Now shut up and play.

    CBFC

    ps. See you guys tonight on TV. Someone tape the game for me.

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  2. heypartner

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    great read CBFC.

    I know some inside scoop on Akeem. I can tell you Akeem was not humble...not even close. I believe Hakeem is in daily struggles to learn how to be humble. The Book helps him a great deal. Stay humble, Hakeem. Do it every day!

    Just play! Have fun! And maybe you won't miss anymore slam dunks. Everyone on the team is having fun, but you. What is up with this miserable ending to your illustrious career?

    We aren't waiving you. Let us see you play. Let us cheer you until we accept our denial that you have retired. I will cheer you whether you shut up or not about this waiving. Please don't even try to force the waive and escalate things to no good ending for you. You deserve to have fun here with us! It is the only way, at least for this season.

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  3. rimbaud

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    Things start to get a little dull around here and then - poof - a long post by CBFC.

    As usual, it is a nice post. I agree that it wold be stupid to watch the playoffs with Hakeem in a Miami uniform, or something. Shouting, "Go Dream! Don't let Kurt Thomas (Camby will be injured as usual) dunk on you...again!"

    I do, however, have a feeling Dream will be waived. CD mostly says he cannot imagine life without Dream - he never says he will absolutely not cave in.

    If he were to give such an ultimatum - I have a feeling Dream would not get off the IR.

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  4. DEANBCURTIS

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    That sentence basically sums up my thoughts on this whole "trade me or waive me" ordeal.

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  5. RocketsPimp

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    rimmy, actually CD was on 950 yesterday and said that if Hakeem wants to be released, he has nothing to do with that and it is entirely a Les Alexander decision. I don't understand why, but he also went on to say he was not actively shopping Hakeem around, but he does get calls about trading the Big Cat.

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  6. Jeff

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    Dale Robertson said the Rockets would never trade or waive Hakeem in the middle of the season so I expect them to waive him very soon.

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    BTW: Great post CBFC. Outstanding.

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  7. CBrownFanClub

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    BTW: Great to see someone ragging Dale "Misguided Mullet" Robertson, Jeff. Outstanding.

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  8. DaDakota

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    I said the exact same thing in my post.

    I concur.

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  9. TheFreak

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    CBFC--You're assuming that Hakeem's going public was orchestrated by Hakeem. It's at least equally plausible that it was orchestrated by the organization to protect themself from whatever action they may choose to take. They already tried to trade him last year, took a huge PR hit, and backed off. So please don't lambast Hakeem for the 'what's best for the team' comments. Why is he even on the injured list? He says he's not injured. I think Hakeem has earned the right to say or feel pretty much whatever the hell he wants. Personally, I would've liked to have seen him retire after the Laker series, but for whatever reason, he didn't want to. Oh well. The man gave this city championships! Asking to be waived or traded from a lottery team in his last year is not going to get to me.

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  10. CBrownFanClub

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    But Freak -- I absolutely assume Hakeem instigated all this. What does the organization have to gain from this situation? Thats what I am trying to figure.

    Look, Hakeem is the king -- I admit it, i think he is the best ever. But he is full of crap this time, and we'd be full of crap to hurt the team AND suffer the indignity of watching Hakeem play in a Suns jersey or whatever. If Hakeem did not start all this, then I am totally on your side -- dont ditch him, no matter whose idea it was. And by the way, it was Hakeem's, I am sure.

    The Rockets did not "try" to trade Hakeem last year and then get smacked back into place. They considered it -- as they should have, and decided against it -- as they should have -- for the very concepts that Hakeem no longer uses to guide his actions: loyalty, respect, and pride in Dream finishing his career with the Rockets.

    Its fine, but sometimes, even in healthy relationships of any sort, being firm, respectful and standing ground is not necessarily a sign of animosity. Being accomodating of every whim of Hakeem is not -- and should not -- be the Rockets' responsibility. It does not seem to work for us.

    And I'll ask it again: Is there any benefit whatsoever to the Rockets in releasing Hakeem rather than going with the current timetable -- set up by Hakeem, no less -- and finishing the year? Clutch? Doc? Jeff? Popeye? Cabbage? Aelliot? Fromobile? FinalFantasy? Francisandbarkleyrule? Anyone? Someone help me out with this one- I just dont see why we would accommodate this request.

    CBFC

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    I can honestly say that I would love for Hakeem to be traded and play a couple more season on another team. He wants to play, he knows he can play, so let him play. but the Rockets won't let him so get him somewhere where he can play and contribute. I would love to see that.

    Right now the worst thing for me would be to see Hakeem complete the season with the Rockets, be unhappy, and not play well because he is not given a chance because every other player on the team, whether they are good players or not, wants to shoot the ball every time down. Hakeem doesn't fit on this team only because nobody would. Even Shaq would be a 10/6 man on this team cause he would never get the ball in the post and he can't shoot or create for himself like Hakeem can.

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  12. Jeff

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    Freak: I can tell you for a fact that this was ALL Hakeem and had nothin to do with the Rockets in terms of the announcement. He went to the media on his own. Period.



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  13. Surfguy

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    I think two words sum up why Hakeem wants to move on or do "what's best for the team?":

    BALL HOG

    I'm not saying this in a negative way. He wants to be the central offensive figure with a supporting cast.

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  14. Arnel

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    Hakeem can do whatever he wants. If he wants to pull a "Ewing" and go finish his career elsewhere, that I'm more that fine with that, I don't think anybody can hold anything against him at this point. peace.

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