[RealGM.com] Cutting Up The Revisionist History Of The James Harden Trade

fwood_rockets · Jan 14, 2015

Ming The King said: ↑

Ginobilli is the most underrated player in the NBA history.
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John Havlicek

Mitchmantc · Jan 14, 2015

Liberon said: ↑

Steven Adams is like a top 5 center in the NBA today.
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No.... No he's not.

If we are talking level of play as of today, not potential; (in no particular order)

Howard
Gasol
Noah
Cousins
Jefferson
Horford

Then there's the debatable ones; B.Lopez, Drummond, Chandler, Pekovic, even Gortat, Asik, Vucevic, or Hibbert. Ok, not Hibbert, but you get my point.

vlaurelio said: ↑

LOL at the writer and OKC saying they lost the finals because of harden

They actually got the the finals because of harden
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People tend to have short memories when it supports their "point."

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Just ask any knowledgeable Spurs fan about James Harden in the playoffs. I'm willing to bet that their opinion is a wee bit different than the national perception.

Scientific1 · Jan 14, 2015

When I saw Harden in the playoffs, I thought he had the tools to replace Westbrook.

nguyen3706 · Jan 14, 2015

I don't agree with the article stating that Beverly is a "elite 3 & D" player.

Icehouse · Jan 14, 2015

roslolian said: ↑

He wouldn't be seen as a superstar if he stayed in OKC. If you look at his %, Harden's percentage was higher in OKC than he in Houston the first time, however he had the luxury of more shots, he only had 11 shots per game in OKC and had 16 and probably could have gotten more if he wanted to.

A good example of this is Pippen, everyone calls him Boy Wonder to MJ's Batman and the ultimate sidekick, but if Pippen had gone to another NBA team there's a high chance he and MJ would've been seen as the ultimate rivals, and yet because he's always playing off of MJ people don't think of him when they think of the very best wing players during the 80's. Another example of this is Manu Ginobili, people call him a star but who really considers him a superstar? No one, right? However Ginobili's stats and efficiency are actually on par with Kobe, it's just that Kobe takes more attempts.

Just look at the Wizards who took Beal over Harden, even after posting efficiency numbers off the charts they still thought Beal was gonna be better than Harden. So saying OKC would've had another superstar is wrong, Harden only became a superstar AFTER he left OKC. How would he be a superstar if he only gets 11 shots a game? He'd have to average 90% to get to that 20 pt mark. And from OKC's perspective, paying the max to a bench guy just isn't feasible. Of course they could've just traded Perkins and WB for Dwight and formed a real superteam, but they can't see the future.
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Pippen is a HOFer and made the top 50 team. I think folks recognized that he was a superstar.

Alvin Choo · Jan 14, 2015

Oh well, thanks to OKC, we have the MVP version of Harden now.

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