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Ted Nugent: The Man Not The Music

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Jul 2, 2003.

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  1. giddyup

    giddyup Member

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    <b>Manny</b>: I am not mad at you, of course. I think the long post should enhance my credibility because it proves exactly what I was saying all along that SamFisher kept dismissing. That's why I did it.

    I think I spent so much time with this issue because (I had some time and) I had no preconceived notion about Ted Nugent. The little impression I had about him was vastly different from the kind of criticisms I was seeing from people here. I knew nothing about his racist image until the first posts here which alluded to it.

    I read many dozens of articles about Nugent through search engines. I read his critics and I read his supporters, I read and posted him. The biggest alleged incident (Denver shock jocks) never even generated a legitimate news story beyond the Korean-American producer who was not even personally offended by Nugent's antics suggesting that he should offer a public apology to Denver's Asian-American listeners. The whole event smelled just like Ted's over-the-top antics and not the kind of race-baiting that it was characterized as.

    The final long post was in defense of me not in defense of Ted Nugent. SamFisher in demonstration of his advice that <b>I</b> should grow up (too funny) kept calling me names such as idiot and jackass because of my position. He slurred the truth and insinuated that I agreed with Nugent's racist POV.

    When I told him that I was only asserting Nugent's constitutional right to freely express himself he accused me of changing horses. I had asked to check the record for himself. I saw no indication that he was going to do that and the dreaded Last Page indication was up. I had some time, so I did it myself and posted it for him to consider.

    I did spend too much time on this in retrospect, but so did we all. If SamFisher had restricted his criticisms to Nugent this never would have happened. I don't really regret it but I didn't particularly enjoy it either.

    I happy to agree to disagree, but it was not left at that. SamFisher kept insulting me for standing by Nugent's rights and I think that is wrong.

    It was SamFisher who got riled up not me. I got determined. However I will agree that were I not giddyup I would be bulldog.

    EDIT-- By the way, it took me a bit over an hour to compile all of that. I did most of it while I was multi-tasking on a conference call!
    Headsets are great...
     
    #141 giddyup, Jul 8, 2003
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  2. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    LOL, you are truly an original, giddy!

    I know how you feel. There have been times that I felt insulted and backed into a corner, but I guess I am a wuss in that I try to part as quick as possible. However, if someone is calling you names, it is hard to do that.
     
  3. giddyup

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    I actually read and thought about what SJ, BJ, Jeff, Mrs.JB and all the others wrote. It gave me pause to think about what I said, so I went back and re-read what I wrote throughout the course of the dialogue.

    That's why I was so sure of what I had said. A couple of things I wrote were a bit naive or blunt but they were in the spirit of what my main point was, that is to say that Nugent has a right to express himself in any way that is legal. He is a performer, after all, and his performance persona is over-the-top.

    Get over it; don't support him. I don't. I'e never bought his music etc.

    BTW, Ms. giddyup informed me earlier that Nugent has suffered the wrath of God. His home has been overtaken by mold and, I believe, is no longer liveable.

    Got room, SamFisher? :D
     

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