If you are going all in Calderon makes sense, he would be a great contrast to Beverley and with his 3pt stroke a deadly match with our team. DD
I think everyone agrees that Calderon is an atrocious defensive player right? So the loss of Beverley at least with the starters hurts. You'd in theory like to have a Beverley to contrast a shooting PG like Calderon with the bench. So my question is this: What does Calderon bring then that Jason Terry and Isiah Canaan don't bring? Both Terry and Canaan are exceptional 3 point shooters. Canaan is young and sometimes is a headache for the coaches, but he's a much more dynamic offensive player than Terry and probably Calderon. So why wouldn't the front office rather just try and give more minutes to Canaan if they think Bev isn't cutting it offensively, and Terry is playing too many minutes? Wouldn't that make more sense to try than making a sort of pointless trade? So what does Calderon do for the Rockets other than get them closer to the hard cap?
So the reason a GM should make a trade for a 33 year old mediocre player making 7 times what the other player makes for THREE MORE YEARS is because his coach "trusts" him, and "likes" him personally? When a GM can't stand up to his coach, and has to make blatantly dumb trades in order to appease his stubborn old school coach is the day I want that GM fired. Its a good thing that's not how Morey & McHale work, and its a good thing Morey is NOT trading for Calderon unless he's heavily compensated to do so & that trade puts him in better position to make a great move further down the line. The Knicks are obviously trying to move him for nothing, and even probably asking for an asset in return. They aren't paying Morey to take him off their hands. So again... I still want to know... what does Jose Calderon add other than coaching likability? That's a pretty piss poor excuse to make a dumb trade.
It would be pretty funny if the Heat really struggled the next few weeks, and decided to actually trade Bosh. Actually moving him NOW from Miami's perspective makes the most sense to me if I'm Pat Riley (however I'm not). Couple questions here: -Would the Bulls swap out a big (namely Taj Gibson) for Ariza in order to round out their roster, not have to use Mirotic at the 3, and upgrade on the defensive end? next question? -Would the Rockets essentially give up Ariza, Papanikolaou, Shved, and picks to get Bosh? I'm thinking of a 3 team swap like this: Houston out: Papanikolaou, Ariza, Shved, picks Houston In: Bosh Miami out: Bosh Miami In: Gibson, Papanikolaou, Shved, picks *will need to waive one player beforehand (probably Ennis or Whiteside) Bulls out: Gibson Bulls In: Ariza From a salary perspective, it looks like it will work for all 3 teams. Only thing is you have to wait till the deadline to be able to combine Shved's salary with other players. -From Miami's perspective, are you ever going to get better value for Bosh? Do you really think you are competing for a title this year and next with this team and Bosh's salary on the books? You were about to lose him for nothing this Summer, and you have a chance to get a good young big to rebuild with in Gibson, major cap relief moving forward, and draft picks. -From the Bulls perspective, you really need to get Mirotic & Gasol more minutes. You loose a little bit on the defensive end in late game situations, but damn Gasol & Mirotic have been so good lately that you more than make up for it offensively. Ariza helps them out tremendously for the playoffs when you might face Lebron, and he can switch to guard all the pesky guards in the East like Lowry & Wall. If they weren't my favorite to win it all before, I think this trade really, really makes them scary. -From Houston's perspective, I'm not really sure what the drop off is from Ariza to Brewer. That's the main thing to look at. I think you see more minutes with Harden playing the 3. You have a jam packed huge front line of Dwight/Bosh/D-Mo/Smith and a super small back court. Lots more minutes for Canaan & maybe even Johnson. Its crazy enough to think that with the Rockets basically trading for their coveted third star and only really giving up a pick and a player that barely shoots 30% from 3 would be the most risk move of the 3 teams involved in the deal. So what do you guys think? Is Riley smart enough to realize that he should actually trade Bosh now while he can get great value, or is he going to be that overly prideful legend NBA guy who is dumb enough to think another Lebron is going to fall into his lap next year?
You don't have to trade Ariza to get Bosh. You can get the salary from Terry, Pap, Brewer, and Shved. You could even replace Brewer with DMo and Capela and still get the salaries to match if you were only bringing Bosh back. I don't think that Riley would tear down the team around Wade. The 8 seed is completely up for grabs in the East and I think they'll keep the team together and go for it.
Which is a dumb decision IMO. If they want to get back to being title contenders fast, the time to make a move is now. It doesn't necessarily mean they have to suck at all either if they move now. Per your point about not needing to trade Ariza... I'm looking at it from a 3rd team perspective. In order to get Miami that younger/cheaper replacement to Bosh, I think a 3 team deal makes more sense for a GM like Riley than going with all young players. I think Gibson is a great fit for them, and still has room to grow. Honestly, I still think with the Gibson/Bosh swap & adding a couple other expiring decent players like Papanikolaou, Miami could still compete for the 8th seed. The Reason I included Ariza mostly was because from Chicago's perspective, you'd need someone that good in win-now mode in a role they need to round out their roster to give up Gibson. They aren't trading him for just anyone. It has to be a win now player at the 3.
TRADE FOR LAWSON/WILSON CHANDLER too lazy to figure how to make it work but make it work and... Lawson/Beverley Harden/Brewer Ariza/Chandler Motiejunas/Smith/Jones Howard/Motiejunas/Smith/Jones Sex.
Lawson is apparently part of their long term rebuilding plans, but if he was available or becomes available of course. You might even take him over Dragic given the fact that his contract is long term and its at the rate where it could be great value with the new CBA. I wouldn't hold my breathe though. I think him, Faried, and now Nurkic are the three players they want to hold onto after they reshuffle the decks this Summer.
why is this board suddenly so high on Lawson? he's too short to fit in as the team focus on defense this season and he isn't shooting too well this season. his biggest strength that's running an offense is Harden's job and i don't see any problem with it now. we might need someone who can do a little bit of that when Harden's on the bench, but not someone lives with it. Dragic is big enough to guard the 2 when Bev subs in, capable of running an offense part time, and he can be a very good spot up shooter along side Harden.
I think people think of Lawson as someone how we could realistically get with our current assets... yes he has flaws but he is a good starting point guard who has proven to be a good scorer and facilitator. I would prefer Dragic also but if Morey could swing Lawson I wouldn't be mad :grin:
im not sure he is but the Nuggets seems like a team that could decide to rebuild at anytime... their current GM isnt the one who built the team and they aren't contenders.
You really think OKC 'gives' the Rockets Reggie Jackson via a three team trade after the James Harden trade? Good luck with that ...
Can we trade Smith? If so, Terry, Smith,,and NOP 1st for Dragic. I understand that Smith has the better track record, but healthy Jones>Smith. Plus, this'll help the Suns with their fast paced offense and desire to be mediocre. Dragic/Bev Harden/Brewer Ariza/Kpap DMO/Jones(DMO is the future IMO) Howard/Jones/ This is definitely a contender and possibly a favorite.
It hasn't. Only the opposite. The guys they are looking to move are guys that aren't part of their future plans. Zach Lowe said the other day that their front office has started making calls to teams as to basically say we are done for the year so X player is available. Players that are probably on that list: -Afflalo (free agent most likely this Summer) -Chandler (team option next year they might waive) -Hickson (mid level player they can replace at a discount) -Arthur (Expiring & might not get brought back) -Nate Robinson (expiring & probably not getting brought back) -Gallinari..? (another year left on his deal & good young player when healthy, but they might want to keep him) The Nuggets can shed alot of these mid level players keep Lawson, Faried, Nurkic, Harris, McGee, and Gallo & have around 14 million in cap space to play with this Summer. My plan if I was the Nuggets GM would be to strip these mid level players to make room for all the draftees I have coming in this year (4 rookies potentially). Let your young talent take over the roles of the mid-level guys and have them grow with your talented young players like Lawson, Faried, Nurkic, and Gallo. If they score on just one or two draft picks they could be really good again in no time. Oh... and I would probably fire & move on from Brian Shaw. Not so sure he's a good NBA coach.
