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Chandler Parsons is the reason the offense was so much better last year...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. Aleron

    Aleron Contributing Member

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    if dwight was playing this way last year, the offense would have stunk then too, we're also missing a bunch of decent efficiency garbage guy points from jones
     
  2. CrashTheBoards

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    -Harden is playing better than he was last year.
    -Dwight is playing worse than he was last year.
    -The only thing Bev does better than Lin is 3 and D. He is playing better than Lin, sure, but you want more from a PG. Lin creates offense better because he can get to the line, knock down the mid range J (which helps him get to the line much more easily), and get to the FT line.

    Ariza is playing worse on offense and better on defense than Parsons last year.

    We do miss Jones and if he is the same player he was then he deserves the start. I don't care if it creates locker room issues. Let Smith and D-Mo play together off the bench unless the other team has strong rebounders.

    Our bench is worse. Asik > anyone we have off the bench.
     
  3. jk103

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    Two years ago we were starting Asik and still managed to rank 6th offensively. I think everyone knew we would take a step backward offensively, but 20th is embarrassing considering Harden is arguably the best offensive player on the planet ATM.
     
  4. Pirytic

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    Harden having an off night is just too big a hit
     
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    we can only judge when we finally get fully fit....................if we ever do
     
  6. bmd

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    Agree completely.

    I think some people here should go back and watch some games from last year. Parsons was huge in getting that offense going. More than I realized.

    Watching some old games today and being able to compare it to the offense now really puts in perspective Parsons' impact on the offense as a whole.
     
  7. charlieaustin

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    I don't think anyone is going to disagree with Parson's impact offensively. I don't understand the point of pointing it out unless you have some solutions to provide for the current team. Many people have mentioned we are missing another play maker. Where do we go from here?
     
  8. sun12

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    It is coaches responsibility to put players in a winning position.

    Free flow offense can only do so much. Sooner or later, you need a system coach.

    System coaches have been improving their systems forever. Year after year, system coaches learn more techniques in improving teams. Technology improves as well.

    Eventually, players coach can not catch up with system coaches because players coach do not improve while system coaches constantly improve.
     
  9. TheFreak

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    Not understanding all of the "we already knew this" posts. Uh, no. The vast majority of posters were downplaying the importance of Parsons to the Rockets' offense this past summer.
     
  10. vator

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    The offense sucked last year too with Parsons until a PF was put in the starting lineup that played well with Harden and Howard.
     
  11. tycoonchip

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    What we had last year that we lack this year is also chemistry. The offence capabilities of Ariza was my big issue with getting Ariza in the first place. I respect his defence but the three and D player along side a Mcgrady or Harden experiment had been done and it didn't pan out so well in the playoffs. Having Beverly is great but because of Ariza it makes a DIRE need for a guy like Dragic and Bledsoe. Someone else who can create a shot like Parsons but most importantly play Defence as well. Parsons with his lack of D is not what we need. We need someone who can be Reliable on both ends of the floor. Corey Brewer might turn out to be that guy if he can prove to be a good lock down defender as well. We need a reliable second pg badly. As much as I love Jason Terry he is definitely more suited as a player coach now rather than a player. He is doing wonders with his leadership but we need a young Terry to win it. If Josh Smith makes tjones expendable then we need to go for it. But without that second playmaker, scorer and defender at pg this team will not go far at all!
     
  12. bmd

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    Ariza drove a lot more this game, and although he didn't take it up to the rim much, he was able to dish it off and keep the offense moving.

    That's why the offense looked good tonight (in addition to the great post play). They kept attacking the basket.
     
  13. Aleron

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    leaking out all the time on transition sure, but we were horrendous in the half court, not quite as bad last year, and we're a better half court offense than we were last year. Only we're not the #1 transition offense by a country mile anymore, which was great in the regular season...
     
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    It's so strange how Ariza started off shooting so well and has consistently gotten worse and worse throughout the season. He'll be lucky to finish the year above 30% from long range.

    His stroke was so smooth at the start of the season, he was much more on balance, taking his time, not rushing. Now he just chucks them up there and doesn't even care to set his feet properly or get his balance.
     
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    My argument isn't that the offense played better or worse with Parsons in the lineup. It's clear it was better.

    I'm just stating that Parsons ability as a facilitator is overrated and he's average at it by statistics ie an average player can fulfill his role... so no conflict in comments here. The Rockets have and had such a poor flowing offense that any player who can somewhat facilitate or newly introduced offensive set improves the team offense by a large margin. It's apparent even when a guy like Papa is on the court.

    Hopefully Mauri is poised to land Dragic as that would be a perfect complement to the team's woes.
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    $15 mil third or fourth option?

    Pass
     
  17. okeezie

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    When they stop playing him 40 min a night on the opposition's best player..sometimes you only have energy for offense or defense. Parsons expended all of his on offense and cherry picking. Ariza plays D. Where was Parsons great offense and creativity in the playoffs against Portland. He shot like crap, missed a million layups, and played no defense. Give me Ariza always bringing D vs Parsons only bringing offense against scrubby teams when said scrubby team is focusing on 2 All Stars. Same thing he is doing in Dallas. Bottom line, he is not a max player and good riddance.
     
  18. Red Chocolate

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    Parsons is also what like almost 2x the salary? That plays a factor. Also, Parsons LOVED to pump fake on wide open 3's last year and drive, whereas Ariza jacks those up. I prefer Ariza jacking those because it spreads the floor better. I think his % will improve it's still early in the season.
     
  19. douglasreedy1

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    I'll resist the urge to attack Parsons sub par defense here... You're right about his offense of course... But then we knew that when we let him go and signed Ariza, right?
     
  20. rockettes

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    it was lin
     

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