Those funky fumes from David Robinsons p**** must be clouding your judgement. First of all I dont give a crap whether those asterisk champions want to do the trade or not. If I was the Rockets GM, I would vomit on the face of the person who suggested this r****ded ass trade. it's If you really think Parker could outplay Kidd straight up I feel sorry for you. When that Whiner A.K.A Duncan, a top three player in the league is backing you up it tends to make things easier. You dont think Kidd would be smoking people left and right if Duncan was there to help him out. That little French A-hole is not the focus of San Antonio's offense and therefore teams don't gear up to stop Parkers. Dumb ass. Parker - 15.5 pts, 5.3 ast, 2.6 reb, .92 blk/stl, 44% FG, 34% 3FG, 75% FT Ginobilli - 7.6 pts, 2 ast, 2.3 reb, 1.65 blk/stl, 44 FG, 35 3FG, 74 FT Jackass - 11.8 pts, 2.3 ast, 3.6 reb, 1.94 blk/stl, 44 FG, 32 3FG, 76 FT All of these scrubs benefit greatly from playing alongside Duncan. Duncan is the only real offensive weapon the Spers have and he is good enough to get all of his teammates involved. Cuttino Mobley - 17.5 pts, 2.8 ast, 4.2 reb, 1.8 blk/stl, 44 FG, 35 3FG, 86 FT Other teams gear up their defenses to stop Cuttino. He doesn't have to rely much on Francis or Yao to get him his stats. He has and could easily be a 20 pt scorer on a regular basis. As Yao gets better, Cuttino's overall game will improve tremendously. And I agree our team has some dumb ass fans who always want to dogg Cuttino and get rid of him. Same with Francis. That is still a small perdentage though. Spers fans on the other hand are the biggest bunch of idiots this world has ever seen. Can't blame you much though. That dump ass of a town doesn't really offer anything besides the Spers in form of sports entertainment. So all of you r****ds have put your heart and soul in the Spers. To you guys Parker might be the second coming of Jesus, Ginobilli might be the second best player in the league after Duncan, Stephen Jackson might be the greatest thing since slice bread, Bruce Bowen might be the best shooter of all time, David Robinson might be the greatest pu...I mean the center of all time, Greg Popavich the greatest commander of troops in the history and obviously Tim Duncan is God's gift to mankind. But the normal people dont see it that way. Duncan might be the best player in the game right now, but your role players are greatly overhyped. All in all I just want to say that don't even worry about Eddie and Cat for Jesus anyways dumb ass. You can keep that French b*stard. We would not trade Eddie, much less Eddie and Cuttino for the great Parker. Chut marika sala bhenchod.
i dont care what stats you pull out. ginobili is just a rookie, and he had to overcome a serious ankle injury through most of the year. his true colors were coming out in the playoffs. as far as scoring goes, ginobili does a lot more on the floor than score points. he will be a much better 2 guard than cuttino in this league. and i do believe there is more than a few percentage that feel we should move cuttino. and just because people express there opinions doesnt make them dumb a$$es. mobley poor play has lost many games for the rockets. dont forget the rockets didnt even make the playoffs with the roster they had.
AND, i really dont think you should cursing at anybody in ANY language on this forum. people are entitled to express there opinions about there teams, whether it be there own or someone elses. if you cant handle others opinions or criticism of your team maybe you shouldnt read any of the postings.
those " greatly overhyped" role players brought a title to that "dumb a$$ town". you dont win a ring with only one player. the rockets roster didnt make the playoffs. doesnt really make you look good. would you want to have that roster right now? as far as defenses dont gear up to stop spurs role players. no defenses gear up to stop cuttino. they dont need to. all they need to do is control yao and steve. cuttino defends himself anyway, shooting so many bricks, and playing less than adequite defense. if he ends up staying here in houston for a long time i hope he take a dramatic change in the role he plays on offense (shoot less!), and plays more agressive defense. or even better hope he becomes the 6th man. actually, i think cuttino would be a great player off the bench, probably even win the 6th man award, but we should find a true point guard and move steve to the 2.
Well then its kinda pointless arguing with you huh? I didn't realize you were the second coming of Nostradums. I apologize. I don't have the capabilities of looking into the future and seeing who will be the better shooting guard. You are right about one thing though. Ginobilli does a lot more on the floor then score. He dishes out more assits....oh wait, he really doesn't. Well thats okay, he rebounds more right? Actually no, not really. He has to be better in blocks and steals. Damn, I guess not. I guess he makes up for it with his shooting percentage, three point percentage and free throw percentage. Damn again! He aint better then Cuttino in any of those catergories. And he averages half as many points. But hey, he is just a damn rookie? I guess with his amazing stats you can already conclude that he will be better then Cuttino? There is also "more then a few percentage" of us that want to move Steve. Whats your point? People expressing opinions dont make them dumb asses. But I am not about to sit here quitely while a Spers fan claims Tony Parker, Stephen Jackson and Ginobilli are better then Cat in big bold ass letters. This is a Rockets site, not no stinkin Spers board.
Ginobli is less than 2 years younger than Mobley and has been a pro longer. Mobley had two badly injured ankles that he had scoped in the offseason. Mobley beats Manu in every category they have stats for, and most of the ones they don't. No GM in his right mind would get rid of Mobley for Ginobili, Parker, Jackson, or any other guard on the Spurs.
Ginobili is good. I like him more than Mobley because he share the ball more. He plays defence and doing well in clutch time. I really like him since I saw him played in world cup. I also think that he is the type of player that make others around him better. I would love to have him on the team but I do not think that Spur will trade him or Parker. I think he has a great chance to be better than Mobley. We will see though.
NO WAY. He has Tim Duncan. Yes. Ginobili is a good player. He's smart. The only reason he does so good is no one respects him....and he surprises everyone. And he's a good shooter. He gambles a lot. That's why he averages like 3 turnovers..in like 20 minutes. He barely plays. I don't think he is as good as Mobley....maybe he was better coached or had better teammates. STATS?!? Mobley is way better! I can't believe this..........Ginobili better than Mobley....yeah...maybe in 10 years.
Have you seen him played in world cup? I think he is at least as good as Mobley already. May be Mobley is still a little better but Ginibili plays smarter in my impression. (Although I watch the Rocket's game more than Spurs so may be I saw Mobley's mistakes more often) Ginobili' stat is low last season because he played little mintues in the begining, I think. Also he is not the focus of attention in his team which I take that as a positive sign that he can be a role player if need be. (Unlike Mobley, whom I do not know if he can be a role player. I hope he can. We will see.) I think we will see more from Ginobili next season. I love his steal.
Ooooh the World Cup you say? Competiton must be fierce there. His stats are garbage. I am not saying that he is not good. But the guy averaged seven points and less then three rerbounds and assists. Cuttino can easily average 20-25 points if we needed him too. In 01-02 Cuttino averaged around 27 points per game for basically the second half of the season. While shooting 47% from the field. That is almost Kobe like. If Steve or Yao were to go down, Cuttino would be able to handle the scoring load. Every year he has improved his game. He improved his defense last year. And I am willing to bet money that this year his outside shooting will blow people away. Cat's first step is on par with Carter and Iverson if not better. Ginobilli is of course going to get better. But Cuttino is not exactly Shawn Kemp Jr. He is not sitting at home eating donuts. I am pretty damn sure he is going to get better as well. Cuttino is 28 and Ginobilli is 26. It's not as if Ginobilli is some young 20 year old playing out of his mind basketball. The difference in age is ONLY TWO FREAKIN YEARS! What makes people so sure Gino can get better and Cat is only going to get worse? If Cat had someone like Duncan, he would also be an All-Star. Yao and hopefully Eddie will improve Cat's overall game as they mature. Count on it!
I do not know how fierce it is but The U.S with NBA players lost to Argentina. I do not think the U.S intended to be 6th place either.
That team was junior varsity and led by an idiotic coach in George Karl. No matter, all I am saying is that NBA is ten times tougher then any other league. And hopefully you are not dumb enough to argue with that.
That IF he would trust Duncan and plays as a team instead of taking all those difficult shots himself when his team mate are opened. His scoring stat would be down but may be our team can win just like Spurs.
Yep! NBA is tougher than other league but You would not think that The U.S world cup team was not good enough to be a major contributor in the NBA, would you?
Damn man! WTF! I am tired of arguing with people who want to bash Cuttino left and right. Do his stats not show a significant drop in shot attempts?!?!?! I bet it goes even a little lower this year. Watching the games clearly showed Cuttino sharing the ball with Ming. If anything, he passed the ball to Ming more then Francis did. And if he is taking "difficult shots" then he is doing an amazing job of making them as demonstrated by his shooting percentage! 44% from the field for a shooting guard is really really good for an off-guard. Last year Ming was a rookie. Its not as if seasoned veterans like Francis and Cat are going to start playing second fiddle to him right away. Most of the time Ming was outplayed in the post and Cat had to do something himself. If this team is going to win it will have to find a balance between Yao and Francis and Cat. It can't be all inside all the time. Yao is not that good yet. It can't be all outside all the time. Francis and Cuttino are not that good yet. And once in a while Cuttino does take some wierd ass shots. I admit. But so do 99.9% of the other stars in the NBA.
I agree with you, though that if the rocket is going to win it will have to find the balance between Yao, Francis and Mobley. And Yao is not as good as Duncan. However, I merely pointed out that you cannot assume that if Cat had Duncan, he would play better or his stat will be better. His stat may be lower as Ginobili's if he were in Spurs team since he will not be a focus either. I believe that Ginobili can have much better stat that close to Cat's if he was a focus point. (as he were in Argentina team) However, he knew his role and his team won so his stat did not really matter to the Spurs. So saying that Ginobili is much worse than Cat based on stat alone is not true either. If anything, in my eyes, Ginobili is a team player first and individual stat second. We will have to see in the next season, though. As for Mobley passing the ball to Yao more than Francis, You and I must watched different games because I feel that Francis did more.
dont forget that in comparing ginobili and mobley, that you cant tale the stats straight up. ginobili came of the bench and only avg. 22 min a game, where as mobley started and avg like 45 min a game. wait until gino starts and gets as many minutes as cuttino.
