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Quanell X to speak tonight at Houston Young Republicans

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jun 24, 2003.

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Glynch may have gone to the extreme with his example, but if you pay attention to what the Nation of Islam tries to promote they have similar values to the Republican Party.

    Most of you already have preconceived notions, but they promote strong family values, they try to get the black community to be less dependent on the government, and they promote a living a very religious life-style.

    So Glynch is way off you guys are the ones with the closed minds.
     
    #21 pgabriel, Jul 1, 2003
  2. MadMax

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    pgabriel...i would think you would understand the dangers of lumping people together in big groups and ascribing values to them. so we're all racists and we're all sexists who think our wives our subordinate to us...because we vote republican. right. but i'm the one with the closed mind on the subject. ok. just clarifying.
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Can you please point out in my posts where I wrote that Republicans were racists. Also if you read the article, a lot of the young republicans said they were surprised how much they had in common with Quannel X's beliefs. And finally, if he was such a racist, why would he be reaching out to them. I don't think the Grand Wizard of Ku Klux Klan will be reaching out to Black Democrats anytime soon.

    JUST CLARIFYING :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
    #23 pgabriel, Jul 1, 2003
  4. MadMax

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    stop rolling your eyes...you didn't say that. glynch did and my take from your post was that you were riding to his defense. perhaps i misunderstood. glynch's take was that republicans are racists and people who find their wives to be subservient. i can't make out what you're saying in your last sentence in that post, though.

    i don't recall commenting on Quannel X at all in this thread.
     
    #24 MadMax, Jul 1, 2003
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You're right, I shouldn't have written it like I was defending Glynch, I just get tired of people blasting the Nation of Islam who have no idea what they stand for and would be surprised to learn some of the ideas they promote.
     
    #25 pgabriel, Jul 1, 2003
  6. Timing

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    It's just funny that a straight up bigot like Quanell X and his New Black Panthers can find acceptance from the Young Republicans. It's hilarious really. If that's not cause for many to re-examine the values of this new Republicanism then I don't know what could ever be cause.
     
    #26 Timing, Jul 1, 2003
  7. MadMax

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    just because people share a viewpoint doesn't mean they share all viewpoints. because i share a viewpoint with quanell x on abortion doesn't mean i share the same sentiments about race relations. or foreign policy.

    you know how the old saying goes...politics makes strange bed-fellows.
     
    #27 MadMax, Jul 1, 2003
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Note that Quanell X did not "find acceptance" by the Houston Young Republans. This is just *another* example of Republicans reaching out to the African-American community in an effort to help them live better lives. This is another example of Republicans having open minds and fostering a dialogue between two groups with large differences. Don't mistake it for anything else.
     
    #28 El_Conquistador, Jul 1, 2003
  9. Timing

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    I wasn't there but I'm pretty sure Quanell wasn't there to talk about abortion and foreign policy. His game is all racial politics and apparently the Young Republicans share views on that issue. The title and gist of the Chronicle article was that Quanell and the Young Repubs saw eye to eye.

    I love the TJ spin though, the Young Republicans invited the leader of a hate group to speak to them in an effort to help them lead better lives, another great example of Republicans having open minds and fostering dialogue all the while Mfume and the NACCP get ignored by this party and Jesse Jackson, who is far more respected and accepted by the black community than Quanell, is the target of attacks on a near daily basis. It takes a lot of nerve to ignore the real leadership of that community and then say that inviting a hate group leader to speak constitutes having an open mind and fostering dialogue.

    Next week the Young Republicans will be hearing from Luis Farrakhan and David Duke is booked for August. Great...
     
    #29 Timing, Jul 1, 2003
  10. SLIMANDTRIM

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    Timing, I'm not trying to embarrass you or be sarcastic, but I'm just wondering if you are a female?
     
    #30 SLIMANDTRIM, Jul 1, 2003
  11. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You have again failed the reading comprehension portion of this exam. The gist of the Chronicle article was the following:

    "Despite the enormous gap in political ideology, there exist selected issues on which the Republicans and Quanell X can find common ground. While on the surface, one would assume there would be zero parallels in political thought, one would be surprised by the apparent similarities on certain issues."

    Keep on trying, Timing, you're bound to improve one of these days.
     
    #31 El_Conquistador, Jul 2, 2003
  12. MadMax

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    Timing --

    Without trying to rip me apart...just a quick question...do you think I'm a bigot because I vote Republican?
     
    #32 MadMax, Jul 2, 2003
  13. Timing

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    TJ you're such a cartoon character. The title of the article and the first sentence are italicized below. Obviously I didn't quite get the article since it's exactly what I said in my post.

    Quanell X, Young Republicans see eye to eye


    Minister Quannell X and a roomful of Young Republicans found out last week that they have more in common than they might have expected.
     
    #33 Timing, Jul 3, 2003
  14. Timing

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    Nah I don't but I'm very disappointed that the First's, Lott's, and Santorum's of the party seem to rise to the top too often. The stigma attached to the party is well earned IMHO.
     
    #34 Timing, Jul 3, 2003
  15. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Timing, here's a little nugget to add to your critical reasonal arsenal: If two people expect to have *aboslolutely nothing* in common, and those two people then find out they have one small thing in common, then they *have more in common than they expected*. Hopefully this helps you better grasp the English language.

    Oh and another thing, amigo, how does Robert Byrd fit into your little 'stigma' theory? A democrat with a history of Ku Klux Klan membership.
     
    #35 El_Conquistador, Jul 3, 2003
  16. glynch

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    For the record not all Republicans are racists and religious fundamentalists. However, these groups are very important parts of their coalition and an effort is often made to send the message that "we are your party and not the Democrats".

    The Republicans are a coalition like either of the two major parties. The Republicans include among their major constituencies. 1) The wealthy who favor inherited wealth, low wages for workers and higher profits for owners 2) Christian fundamentalists and 3) racially oriented whites who are still at odds with much of the civil rights movements and 4) other constituencies.

    Anyone who can live in Houston TX and not realize 2) and 3) is either very unaware or being partisan in this thread by playing dumb.
     
    #36 glynch, Jul 3, 2003
  17. Rocket River

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    I would venture to say . . .
    EVERYONE has *SOMETHING* in common with everyone else

    If only the fact that we all breath

    Quannel and the Young Repubs . . . I'm not surprised at all

    I think the issue is perspective
    We may be both FOR the same thing
    but our reason maybe at odds.

    Quanell may be against Affirmative Action and point out that it includes the White Affirmative Action that has been going on in this country since its inception

    While the Young Repubs only see the SO CALLEd Affirmative Action of the last 30 yrs and ABSOLUTELY don't recognize that they have lived a life of privilege and favor.

    Rocket River
     
    #37 Rocket River, Jul 3, 2003
  18. MadMax

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    are you proud of ALL of the elements of the Democratic Party, glynch?
     
    #38 MadMax, Jul 3, 2003
  19. Timing

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    I read and comprehended the article just fine. Glad we could agree on that.

    That's it, you're one of the Three Amigos. I knew something was up with you.

    #1) I could care less what party a bigot is in. #2) Byrd is a freakin bigot and I despise him as much as these other clowns. #3) Byrd isn't the Senate Majority leader, the Speaker of the House, or any such thing. He's just some racist b*stard that the *wise* people of West Virginia keep in office. Part of my family has roots in Virginia so I'm pretty familiar with the racist good ole boy hillbilly types that live in that part of the country. In fact my grandfather was basically one of them so I'm pretty confident I know what Byrd is about and what he represents. So your judgemental attack is hereby DISMISSED.
     
    #39 Timing, Jul 3, 2003
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