We need to realize that cuttino is the problem here. Unless Van Gundy completly changes our offence we are in serious trouble. I am sick of watchin one on one basketball. I say we try and trade mobley for tony parker if the spurs go for jason kidd. We also would need to take someone esle or add some playeers to the mix because of the contract differences, what does everyone else think. This or finding a true pass first point guard would be best.
This is why I want to get Payton. Payton will need to play fewer minutes (think Stockton the last 2-3 years). Mobley moves to the sixth man, 22 minutes a night and 20 points a game. He will still have trade value if something comes up. I don't understand the total bashing of Mobley. He is just not quite a starter. He would be incredible off the bench off he would accept the role.
CAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM! His past was exactly that. PAST. He is willing to change for the good of the team. If you watched any games last season you would have seen that. Before Yao came, he took about 20 shots a game. Last season he took probably 5-6 less shots than that. Why are people so impatient with him? Where in the world are you going to find a player who can get you 20 points every night for chump change?
How can you say Mobley is "not quite a starter" in your opinion, what is starter quality? You may have hear i before, but it is somewhat difficult to field a team with superstars at every position. Cat just fills a team need....which is scoring. That will change under Van Gundy's scheme, as he will be worked towards more of a thirs scorng option behing Yao and Steve. Mobley is better than at least half of the starting shooting guards in the NBA right now, and I still thinkI'm low-balling him. Rudy's scheme called for him to be the #1 or #2 scoring guy, which is why he took so many shots. Soon that will change, and Cuttino will learn his role as a situational scorer and more of a defensive presence.
I think cat has great talent and can put up big numbers, I also think he would be better suited to coming off the bench. Just my opinion. His style of play, his energy.... It just screams "spark off the bench", and I mean sixth man of the year kind of spark.
I wouldn't agree that Mobley is the problem, its how we play that's the problem. Mobley for Parker? Parker is a scoring PG...remind you of someone? We don't need SF and a poor-man's SF in our backcourt. I understand your perspective, but believe Mobes has a lot to offer if we focus and sculpt is game to blend with our current roster.
Jack Mobley simply didn't understand that he is no longer the focus of the offense. He didn't understand it last year, and he's not going to understand it this year. He is a selfish player who thinks that he is the be all and end all of the team. I would not start him. And if the opportunity came to trade him I would.
Cat is a very good player but his decission making is poor and that is is the problem. He dribbles too much like our other guards and he hates to pass the ball.He will need to change under JVG because the Coach is aware of everything ,after his preview of the tapes. Remember we have been out of the playoffs for the last 4 seasons, which might indicate that we have problems in the Guards.
It may make sense for SA but it doesn't make any sense for the Rockets. Why would you want 2 PGs that play basically the same way? Parker was strong in a few games in the playoffs and people think he's great; then he disappears. He's very inconsistent. Mobley gets you at least 10 a game usually, even on a bad day. He may be taking a lot of shots, but what do you expect out of the 2nd/3rd option on a young team? Leave Mobley alone and go jump on Moochie's case.
If you take away CAT's one on one game he is not worth having in the starting line up IMO. He is an average, streaky shooter. His defense does not show up every game and the only way he likes to pass is if it's an alley oop. He should be coming off the bench, but I don't think GP is the answer. I'm not sure Steve could be better at the 2 either, when it seems that 2 guards are better defenders, especially on guards at Steve's height.
Mobley is a better defender and a better shooter than Stevie "Franchise". If benching or trading him is the answer, I am afraid to know what the question is.
I like Cat. I like what he brings to the floor. I think our bench needs help though and I suggest we make major roster move changes with our bench players. I don't mind keeping Rice and I will say I like what Cato brings to the floor. The rest can all go... mo tay, moochie, collier, j hawkins or whoever... all just need to go...
He is? The career stats are about identical. Don't let your blind hatred of Steve Francis (how can you be a fan when you hate one of the star players so much?) lead you to make incorrect statements like this. And it's not like either one of them are all-world defensive players.
What about? BULLS TRADE Jamal Crawford Donyell Marshall Marcus Fizer ROCKETS TRADE Cuttino Mobley resigned James Posey Crawford plays PG, Francis moves to SG, Marshall can play SF or PF, same with Fizer but he's younger and can be an enforcer-type with Ming in the frontcourt. Bulls get the wingmen they need.
Mobley,Francis and Moochie, are the problem! Our Game and the way we play is the problem. We play our Game the way the Guards want it to be played. This is the reason that the Rockets have been out of the Playoffs for FOUR YEARS, playing a Guard oriented, selfish game and a Coach not in control of his Team. JVG is going to give the Guards a chance to change but he wont stand for anything but team Basketball.If the Guards refuse or are unable to play an unselfish game then they will be gone. So fellow posters expect a struggle to ensue till JVG wins out, it might take a whole season. I predict the most improved player on the Rockets for 03/04, to be Moochie Norris.
hpscc, I can't see the Bulls trading Crawford until they see how Hinrich is going to work out. However, I'd do that trade.
