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MURDER: Variation is degrees

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Jun 30, 2003.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    What makes one murder so much worse than another?
    Intent?
    Method?
    Reason behind it?

    I'm just curious as to what makes ONE Murder
    so much more Heinous than another?

    Rocket River
     
  2. MadMax

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    do you mean for the sake of punishment?
     
  3. underoverup

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    My question is why is attemted murder less of a crime than murder? Someone shoots another person 6 times and they live by pure luck the shooter gets charged with attempted murder and usually a much lighter sentence. Someone punches someone in a fight they fall hit their head and die (this happened)-- possible murder 2 charge----:confused: Doesn't make sense to me.
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    underoverup,
    I think murder requires a degree of planning and/or intent. What you describe with the punch would probably be manslaughter. :confused: That's according to what I've learned from TV.
     
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    "Attempted murder? Now really, what IS that? Do they award a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry?" --Sideshow Bob

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  6. underoverup

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    There are lots of other examples I could use, but the guy did get charged with murder in that case. I think usually it would be manslaughter. As I understand it Murder 1 is premeditated, Murder 2 is a crime of passion type thing or no preplanning (guy disses the Rockets, and you shoot him).

    Btw- Who is this T.V. you speak of :confused: ??? Will you share more of his teachings with us. :)
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    The quality of your lawyer.
     
  8. B-Bob

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    No! TV is a false prophet! Learn from my mistakes, grasshopper!
     
  9. Rocket River

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    Exactly
    and the publicity surrounding it

    I mean FOR INSTANCE
    Mallard - she hit a man . .. and let him die through inaction
    The Houston Dentist woman - Sought out her husband . . then ran him down . . ..

    One gets 20 yrs. . .the other 50

    What makes one worse than the other

    Two men are dead by vehicle.

    Rocket River
     
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    Harris- Crime of passion
    Mallard- Crime of negligence and stupidity
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, Harris probably got some sympathy from jurors who thought passion played a part.

    Mallard's included plenty of premeditation. After ramming the guy, she could have settled down and called the police and hospital. Instead, she tried to get away with it. And they showed her back at the same club the next week in a video. She also supposedly tampered with evidence.

    (Personally I think Harris should have gotten more.)
     
  12. Rocket River

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    that is my point
    Why is Passion . . sorta more ok than simple stupidity
    two men are dead

    AN ASIDE: THe Man in Mallard's case died in hours NOT DAYS as it has been sensationalised to be.

    Rocket River
     
  13. Rocket River

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    no Premeditation but inaction and just tampering After the fact.

    It was more an accident - pure and simple
    She made it worse through Inaction and then trying to cover up her inaction.

    Rocket River
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    It's more than an accident. It became premeditation because the guy was still alive. If the guy died on impact, then I would agree with you. But he was alive and she basically murdered him by leaving him in her garage.
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Is it just a rhetorical question or do you want the definitions according to Texas law? I could probably explain it more or less according to NY law. I believe there are some slight differences between the states.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    not rhetorial . . but more philosophical

    Rocket River
     
  17. Yetti

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    When considering Murder, a good starting point is 'Thou Shall Not Kill'.
     

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