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The results are clear: Ariza > Parsons

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Oct 9, 2014.

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  1. kemah

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    lol

    That is eye opening. Doubt it will help much against the Parsons ball nuzzlers though.

    Does the chart show the match up when they go head to head?
     
  2. <3myrockets

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    Agree with this. MUCH is so subjective when in reality this isn't the case. CP had people biting on his pump fake for a while because they were chasing him down when attention was on James or Dwight. This obviously opened up his "shot creation" since he was hitting at a decent clip for a while. 3za is hitting at a better rate so you can imagine the threat to opposing D.

    Honestly I think 3za will be able to do the exact same thing for his "shot creation" skills to be inflated. I personally don't care if he can create or not, as long as he's playing his role but it will definitely open up the offensive flow.
     
  3. kemah

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    lol

    This. Points will be much easier for him than in the past.
     
  4. SF3isBack!!

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    WOW! Batum really has Parsons number!
     
  5. kemah

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    lol

    Seems everyone had his number.
     
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    Here is the same comparisons now looking at FG% and 3PT%. Red if the scorer does better than his average in the match up, green is the scorer does worse than his average in the match up.

    Man! Batum really does light Parsons up!


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  7. kemah

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    lol

    What stats was the Dallas GM looking at when they offered Parsons a max?
     
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    Probably the number of clothing line deals that could sponsor him. Possibly hair products as well.
     
  9. kemah

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    lol

    Lol. Maybe the Mavs needed to target the teenies and Gay's more.
     
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    Not sure if already posted, but Jalen voted the Ariza signing as the "Best Under the Radar Move" of the offseason. Starts around 18:00 --

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  11. sabesque

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    Parsons had an agenda - to become an allstar and to be worthy of becoming a centerpiece. I'm not saying that agenda is a BAD thing, especially since it drove him to be better, but I think that takes focus away from what we're trying to do.

    The difference is between maxing out on a young guy who thinks he could eventually be a star versus a veteran guy who is already a star (like a melo or a bosh) is that the young guy still has to prove it and the veteran guy is just there to win.

    With Ariza we have a guy who does a lot of similar things to Parsons (minus a few points per game and better defense), but wants to win within his role. I'm hopeful that will bring more cohesion.
     
  12. Remlap

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    Found this in an article on Bleacher Report. Can't take any personal credit for it.
    But very telling. We surely got the better end of the deal in the long run

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  13. The_Yoyo

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    So what does that say about Parsons who did not have an impressive playoff run during a contract year

    (and yes - there is nothing to say that he and his agent did not know it would be a contract year)
     
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    I wonder what year(s) the data comes from. If its from last season alone the charts for LeBron and Melo is really impressive for Ariza considering he would have face them four times each during the regular season.

    Likewise the Durant looks impressive, but he only faced him twice last season and maybe one of those nights Durant could have just been off. 4 games though less likely to just have an "off night" or have it be poor scheduling (4th game in 5 nights deal)
     
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    I doubt they go head-to-head that much, as the best defender I would've expected Ariza to defend Harden instead of Parsons.

    Anyway really happy with how the signing is shaping up, where the **** is GoRox2013? Like a true troll he hides his head in the sand whenever the Rox make a good move then comes out of his little hole so he can rag on the Rox for not being the Spurs :rolleyes:
     
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    Ariza will meet us all again on the long journey to the middle.
     
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    Ariza is, in baseball terms, a "five tool player". He has a sweet stroke, very good basketball IQ, and defensively is very sound. He can guard perimeter guys and post guys with equal effectiveness, probably the only ones he has difficulty with are hefty post guys like Zach Randolph. Skills and brains wise, he is in the Pippen-Battier mold, but hasn't had the breaks such as being in the right situation and being injury free.

    Parsons thrived in the Rockets' run and gun system that inflated his stats. He is an above average shooter and very good finisher. But that's about it. He is quite mobile for his height but majority at his position are much more physically gifted from the neck down than he is.
     
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    During the offseason I went along with the idea that Parsons is better than Ariza on offense so overall they’re a wash. But it seems that’s not the case. If you go by per-100 possessions stats, which adjust for the Rockets high pace offense and Parsons’ high minutes played, you’ll find that Parsons line per 100 possessions is 22.0pt/7.3rb/5.3ast/2.6tov. While Ariza it’s 20.9pt/9.0rb/3.6ast/2.5tov. And you can imagine that Ariza would get some more breakaway dunks like Parsons in our offense where guards tend to leak out on breaks.

    I’m not even sure the Rockets falter on offense with Ariza over Parsons myself. It’s possible we’ve actually upgraded the position while spending half the money. Parsons numbers should look similar to last year because Dallas also run a high paced spread the floor offense, but Ariza's numbers can actually improve on this team.
     
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    Parsons played only 3 seasons so far. He's been making progress. I do not see big difference on his stats in the past 2 playoffs, contract year or not.
     
  20. deshen

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    This sounds like Ariza is a better player. If it were true, Ariza would have earned a better contract than Parsons.
    Apparently, that is not the case.
     

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