Given that Rockets fans focuses on Rubio's shooting as why he sucks, and that everyone outside of Houston focus on Harden's defense as why he sucks, you don't find any irony or hypocrisy in that? Clearly Rubio is not as good as Harden was 2 years ago in OKC. But there's no point in reducing his entire game to a single skill either. I don't think that's much to ask, is it?
Nobody is reducing Rubio to anything. If anything its the completely opposite(uplifted Rubio to even compare him to Harden) to even mention Rubio in the same conversation. Call me when Rubio gets his team to the playoffs..... much less is the guy who take all the blame because his team (comprised of talents like Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka) performed underwhelmingly to a Lebron James/Wade/Bosh Heat team in the NBA finals. DO NOT COMPARE RUBIO TO HARDEN EVER. Its shameful to even mention it. The fact is, people want to talk about Rubio as the missing piece when this guy who has been on a team with the like of Kevin Love, Pekovic, a talented supporting cast, and a HOF coach hasn't even cracked the playoffs in the NBA. What does that say about Ricky F-Ing Rubio???? He obviously wasn't even a major piece in Minnesota... What makes people think he's going to make a damn bit of difference in Houston when his role is reduced to the supporting guard role (where he is relied upon to spread the floor more than anything), and his minutes on the floor defensively mean that Patrick Beverley isn't on the floor to guard the best perimeter player on the other end??? I'm sorry but am I the only one here taking crazy pills or something or has the whole damn world just gone mad? I can't even wrap my head around this crap any more. Have a good weekend everyone.... Peace. (FYI... check out the new Rustie LP(Green language). Good SH#$)
KG is a HOF player. Does that mean he's still good? Rick was terrible last season with the Wolves. They lost LOADS of CLOSE games last season. If you get blown out that's the player's fault. If you lose in a close game, that's the coaches fault. They had a solid group of guys. Two efficient, above average scorers in Martin and Love. They also had Pekovic who was pretty impressive. One problem though. All three of those guys are awful on the other side of the court. I bet you if you replaced Pekovic with someone like Asik then the Wolve would have made the playoffs, but that's irrelevant. What I'm saying is, yeah the players are good. But that doesn't necessarily mean the whole team will be good by result. (2013 Lakers) Rubio isn't as good as 2012 Harden and will likely never be as good as 2012 Harden. No one is asking him to be the 3rd best player on the team though. And no one is asking him to be the 3rd option on scoring either. So focusing on his scoring is ****ing stupid. Rubio is an above average PG who gets under appreciated because he can't score like Westy, Dame, Lillard, or Steph. Guess who else can't score like them but is better than at least two of those guys? Mike Conley. or even Kyle Lowry. Want to know why they're so good? Because they do almost everything else pretty damn good. Want to know why no one cares about them? Because they're not crazy scorers. But that's not the freaking point of being a basketball player. The point of being a hooper is making your team better. *I'm not saying Rubio is as good as the guys listed above, but he can definitely help as team as much as other other guys* Quit being ironic. Quit being dense. Rubio doesn't suck. And the only reason he wouldn't be a good fit for the squad is because Harden doesn't know how to play off the ball. But for the other 3 starters? He couldn't be a better fit. Dwight? Let's be real. Good fit, no discussion. Jones? He's always moving, and although sometimes he gets lost I have no doubt in my mind that Rubio would be able to find him for an easy two. Ariza? Is it a coincidence he had one of his best seasons with Wall? Who isn't that good of a shooter, but an elite creator? Nope. OKAY, so he doesn't fit with our main guy, and that's not either of their faults. Move on. No Rubio to Houston. BUT that doesn't give you a reason to trash Rubio and call the 24 year old a bust, or sucky, or whatever negative you want to call him. Rubio can hoop. That's it. Don't question it. He can't shoot. But the boy can hoop. I can't shoot. But guarantee I'll still get picked up at fitness connection cause dudes love getting easy buckets. That's what Ricky 'cant make a lay up' Rubio does. He gets you buckets. but sure. Let's just keep Beverley and hope we magically land Dragic or Bledsoe. Lets have Beverley with his 3 assist per game ass. I love Beverley and hope he's a Rocket for life, but don't front. We can do so much better. I'm not saying we should get Rubio. I'm just saying he doesn't suck.
Unbelievable. we are getting Harden - Rubio comparisons...My lord.. Is there a way to hide this thread so i'm not tempted to click it.
No joke. Two very very different players. If you want to discuss them, discuss what it would be like if they were on the same team. Do you think it would or wouldn't work and explain.
You are not the only one, but I think the rest of us who see that stripping our team so that we have the right to pay Ricky freaking Rubio max money is a terrible idea, have for the most part given up trying to explain why he would be a bad idea. The good news is there's no legitimacy to any of this and Morey would never do it. So there's nothing to worry about. 1 month, 1 week, 14 hours until the season starts....
Here's hoping Rubio's not signed in an attempt to bring in a 'high' profile name with Morey thinking that's what the fans want and after missing out on Bosch etc. I'd rather go into the season with what we already have.
The post I was responding to indicated that together, Rubio and Love were not even .500. In the games they played together, over Rubio's 3 years in the league, the Wolves have played .500. In 2012-2013, Love played 18 games. The Wolves were 31-51 that season. The Wolves were NOT 31-51 with Kevin Love that year. They were 9-9 in the games he played. Kevin Love contributed as much on the court in the other 64 games as Yao Ming did for the Rockets last year.
Bingo. Morey aint stupid. Whoever started the Rubio crap about max money and comparing him to Harden is completely delusional. LOL. The Rubio talk has now become off season entertainment for the rest of us. http://bringmethenews.com/2014/01/21/how-bad-of-a-shooter-is-ricky-rubio-maybe-the-worst-ever/
The original post I responded to said they had never had a .500 season. In actuality. all three seasons Rubio and Love played together, in the actual games they played together, they were .500 or better in each of those seasons. To reiterate, in 2011/2012 where Rubio and Love both played, the Wolves were 20-18. In 2012/2013 they were 2-2 and in 2013/2014 they were 39-39. Overall in all their games together the Wolves were 2 games over .500.
rubio is in the nash mold of players. so when you take the mvp nash of the early 2000s, and compare that nash with harden, you still will not be able to come up with a solid answer that will satisfy anyone because they are two totally different high level players. for sure inserting the mvp nash into the current houston roster will not work well for the team nor for nash. and rubio, who is many many rungs below nash, will not fit in the current houston roster as well
