Oh, I was ok codell. But you had to know this was coming... <I>KRAMER: I hate KEITH HERNANDEZ - hate him. NEWMAN: I despise him. ELAINE: Why? NEWMAN: Why? I'll tell you why... KRAMER: Let me tell it .. NEWMAN: No, you can't tell it .. KRAMER: You always tell it .. NEWMAN: All right, tell it. KRAMER: Ja ja ja - just tell it NEWMAN: June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful afternoon in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run Phillies ninth. Cost the Mets the game. KRAMER: Our day was ruined. There was a lot of people, you know, they were waiting by the player's parking lot. Now we're coming down the ramp ... [cut to film of the day - like the Zabruter film - with the Umbrella man and everything - Oh so brilliant parody!!!] ... Newman was in front of me. Keith was coming toward us, as he passes Newman turns and says, " Nice game pretty boy.". Keith continued past us up the ramp. NEWMAN: A second later, something happened that changed us in a deep and profound way front that day forward. ELAINE: What was it? KRAMER: He spit on us.... and I screamed out, "I'm hit!" NEWMAN: Then I turned and the spit ricochet of him and it hit me. ELAINE: Wow! What a story. JERRY: Unfortunately the immutable laws of physics contradict the whole premise of your account. Allow me to reconstruct this if I may for Miss Benes as I've heard this story a number of times. JERRY: Newman, Kramer, if you'll indulge me. According to your story Keith passes you and starts walking up the ramp then you say you were struck on the right temple. The spit then proceeds to ricochet off the temple striking Newman between the third and forth rib. The spit then cam off the rib turned and hit Newman in the right wrist causing him to drop his baseball cap. The spit then splashed off the wrist, Pauses In mid air mind you- makes a left turn and lands on Newman's left thigh. That is one magic luggie. </I> then... <I>KRAMER: Hello. KEITH: Hello. KRAMER: Oh, you don't remember me. KEITH: No should I [continuity error: in fact he SHOULD from the basketball game] KRAMER: Yeah, you should. I certainly remember you. Let me refresh your memory. [Newman enters] NEWMAN: June 14th, 1987. Mets Phillies. You made a big error. Cost the Mets the game. Then you're coming up the parking lot ramp. KEITH: YOU said, "Nice game, pretty boy." KRAMER: Ah, you remember. NEWMAN: And then you spit on us. KEITH: Hey, I didn't spit at you. NEWMAN: Oh, yeah, right. KRAMER: No no no, well, then who was it? KEITH: Well lookit, the way I remember it [back to the grainy 8mm film parody] I was walking up the ramp. I was upset about the game. That's when you called me pretty boy. It ticked me off. I started to turn around to say something and as I turned around I saw Roger McDowell behind the bushes over by that gravely road. … Anyway he was talking to someone and they were talking to you. I tried to scream out but it was too late. It was already on its way. JERRY: I told you! NEWMAN: Wow, it was McDowell. JERRY: But why? Why McDowell? KRAMER: Well, maybe because we were sitting in the right field stands cursing at him in the bullpen all game. NEWMAN: He must have caught a glimpse of us when I poured that beer on his head. NEWMAN: It was McDowell. </I>
RM95, Dooohhhh!!! Nice save. The Keith Hernandez/Spitter episode didnt even come to mind when I was posting on that subject. I should be ashamed of myself.
Michael Bolton: We're not going to some white collar resort prison. No, no, no! We're going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison!
The significance of the umbrella is based on the theory that numerous things occured that that contributed to the thinking that there was a conspiracy. One of those things, was the umbrella, as it was mid November and sunny outside. Some have theorized that the man opening the umbrella was using it as a signal to others in Dealy Plaza that might have been involved in the assasination.
Ok. I was thinking more along the lines of the umbrella was actually 'The Penguin's' umbella and he got shot with it.
in one of the books i once read on the subject, there was a part about CIA research into covert weapons...like using umbrellas to disguise them. i think the book said they tried to take out castro with one of those...
codell -- no...i haven't. is it good? i read the book by the guy who teaches the course on the assassination at UT...i think it was called "Crossfire." but honestly, it's been a long time since i read that book.
First, I will tell you a little about the research I have done. I have probably read about 15-20 books on this subject. I did papers on it in high school and in college. The JFK assasination is one of my hobbies, or was until I met my wife. Anyway, it is probably the best book on the subject that I read. The guy that wrote the book is named Gary Cornwell. We all know about the Warren Commission. However, alot of people don't realize that a second commission was formed in the 1970s to reopen the investigation, and Mr. Cornwell was the Deputy Chief Counsel for that committe. In this book, he does an excellent job of proving and disproving various theories, including popular ones that were addressed in the movie by Oliver Stone. What I liked most about Mr. Cornwell's view point, is his own personal theory and how he handles his cases. He says that basically, it is pretty common for whoever is doing an investigation to have preconceived biases, or theories about what happened or who is guilty. He felt that a good investigator should actually try to disprove his own preconceptions (i.e. if you were handling a case and you felt that your client was innocent, then you should actually do research and try and find evidence that he/she is guilty, instead of doing research to try and prove they were inoccent). He felt that handling an investigation this way adds more credbility to any evidence or theories that one may present. In the book, he basically goes over all the important details that have contributed to the conspiracy theories (the umbrella, the open motorcate, the weird turns through Dealy Plaza, the cuban/mafia/CIA connections, the LBJ theories, the grassy knoll, etc.). The findings of the congressional committe that he was a part of basically said that in all probability, there was a conspiracy. This conclusion was based mainly on this very complicated sound test that they did. During the shooting, it so happened that a CB radio on one of the police motorcyles was stuck and the shots were all recorded. The committe ended up setting up this really complicated set of speakers and tested shots from various areas in Dealey Plaza and from the school book depository. The tests showed, in comparison with the original recordings, that the shots were fired from different locations and thus, a consipiracy might have occured. Here is a link to the book. Like I said, out of all the books I have read, this one was the best by far: Real Answers
She doesn't look so bad. Fix up her hair, and imagine what her face would look like if she was being told that she was found innocent, wouldn't be too bad at all. Don't know about her body, but she was in the military, so she was at least in good shape.
And the argument for the "sanctity of marriage" loses whatever credibility it had left. Apparently the State of Texas thinks its OK for convicted murderers to get married but not gay couples.
