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Broussard: Suns & Bledsoe $32M apart in negotiatons

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 17, 2014.

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  1. traveler

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    We already beat the Spurs every time we play them. We need to beat the Clips and Portland and we won't with just another guard no matter how good he is.
     
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    So you really think we would've beat the Spurs in the playoffs>?
     
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    Yeah, but some people argue regular season is meaningless because the spurs turn it up in the playoffs. I partially agree, but if you watched those games you knew the spurs were trying hard to win. Popps face was red half the time.

    You fail to understand what having a pg like bledsoe means. He wears out guys like lillard and paul on both sides of the court. That is a huge asset to have because you want to get the best pgs tired quick especially late in the fourth. It makes the other teams offense lazy and predictable.

    I think you are way overvaluing parsons and lin and undervaluing bledsoe and ariza. Asik is still a huge loss, but it wont be so bad because he was still Dwight's back up.
     
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    Didn't the Thunder sweep the Spurs in the regular season too?
     
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    We wear out teams now. What we can't do is stop teams with two big top tier bigs from dominating the basket. Unfortunately the west has teams that can beat us because they have these bigs. Unless we get Howard help we are early exit.

    I understand what having a Bledsoe means. He is good but he will tie up the cap. That means we are not a contender because we can't pursue a PF if we sign him to a max. Get him here on a team friendly contract then we can keep our options open.
     
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    Had bledsoe played enough games to qualify this is where he would rank amongst nba point guards in the league:

    2nd in rebounds (what the rockets need late in the game with all those long rebounds ending up going to the other team)
    9th in points
    2nd in fg% behind tony parker
    5th in FTA
    8th in steals
    8th in blocks (meh)
     
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    Wasnt ibaka healthy too?
     
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    If he had stayed healthy his stats may have gone down. We have no way of knowing because he is always injured.
     
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    I would love to get a top tier big for the max, but they are much harder to come by. Name me 3 power forwards we can realistically attain that are not the likes of josh smith and greg monroe......im waiting. Is it really worth giving up a year of contending for paul millsap?

    You get bledsoe if you can, prey he doesnt get injured, and run. Great point guards are abundant in this league and the rockets should take advantage of this fact.
     
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    He is 24 and on the rise. Ever heard of buy low, sell high?
     
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    If you get Bledsoe and tie up the cap then we can run but we will get stopped early in the playoffs. To tie up the cap by getting a max guard before we find out if TJ and/or Dmo can handle the 4 spot would be wasting everyone's time. So far all I hear from some here is they are sure that TJ and Dmo are able to do this. So far they haven't shown they can and it would take a huge leap for them to be able to do so. I expect TJ to take a step up but not a leap. Dmo I think is a dud and we should get rid of him fast while he may be able to get us something decent.

    What do you think we should do if we get Bledsoe and tie up our cap and then we find that TJ and Dmo can't handle the PF position? Remember we will be capped out.
     
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    We dont have time to find out if tjones or dmo are legit. We know tjones had to be taken out due to allowing career playoff records being set on him. We know dmo doesnt do anything well. I am not saying we dont have time to improve the roster, but we dont have time to waste on relying on rookies to solve this teams problems.

    You seriously overrate the potential of these guys. I am as big a jones fan as any. I love his effort and rebounding, but that doesnt change the fact that he is undersized and he will be baked chicken to feast on by the likes of Aldridge, griffin, and duncan.
     
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    We would have most of these players remaining: jones, d-mo, capela, dorsey, and adrien.

    Also, i never said we would need much from the pf position. Ariza, bledsoe, dwight, and harden are outstanding rebounders. Dwight provides rim protection. All we need from the 4 is someone who can knock down the 18-20 foot jumper, (cut to the basket), stay in front of his man, and keep his man off the boards.

    We could use our trade exception on the likes of chuck hayes who is expiring at $6 million and very expendable to the raptors. He could also be re-signed for cheap. Jason thompson wouldn't be bad depending on what the kings would give us to take is contract. Brandon bass can be had. I would look for utah to dump trevor booker when their season doesn't pan out and their fans turn on the hayward signing. Kris humphries would be cheap. The point is we dont need much and these guys who dont provide much are always available.

    Also, any word on emeka's status? He would be nice in limited minutes.
     
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    No I don't overrate these guys. I think they will be totally inadequate.


    These ones you mentioned suck just as bad. You say we don't need a lot from our PF? I think we need a PF that can go against the western conferences PF or we are early exit. It is maybe our largest weakness on this team besides a bench. We have guards that can score and one that is a top defense man. A second ball handler that can also create is nice but we have to get a top tier PF.
     
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    I gave you my list. Where is yours? Who is this magical pf worthy of the max that we can have? Love and aldridge turned out to be pipe dreams. Bass, hayes, and booker are better than adrien and dorsey playing 20 minutes a game (assuming we lose one of dmo or jones). I said we dont need much because we are getting rebounding and rim protection from everyone else.

    The west is strongest in the two positions we are weakest. Pg and pf. The pg position is the most stacked position in the league and bledsoe is going to wear them out.

    I would rather have bledsoe for the max than josh smith.
     
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    I keep hearing this and while I agree we need some sort of answer for Duncan, Griffin, Ibaka, Aldridge, Dirk I wonder if those teams think "we need some answer for Dwight and Harden". You can't dominate other teams at every position. Teams can only have 2 or 3 stars at most.

    With enough space for one more max contract it really just comes down to a question of if it's better to pay max money for the PG or PF spot or find mid level talent at both. Given there aren't as many elite PF options on the market (as much as there are PGs) it makes sense to upgrade there first since there's more supply at that position.

    If there's an allstar PF talent available then it's a different conversation, don't know of any of those worth throwing big money at right though.
     
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    So you're assuming that an elite pf is going to come to us? Because the only one that will be available is LMA and it looks like he's re-signing with Portland
     
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    After taking a serious look at the 2015 free agency, i can see why bledsoe is not imminent. It will be hard for the rockets to strike out with harden, howard, ariza, the max, and no SIT. I am not away we will come away with aldridge, but there should be many free agents that could be realistically had excluding the restricted ones and the player options. The rockets just need to make some noise in the playoffs to get their attention.

    I just wish we kept (lin) and that pick now. Man **** bosh.
     
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    That is why you keep flexibility. It doesn't even have to be a max PF. This team has guards now. We have Dwight. He is going to need help for us to go deep into the playoffs. I am sure you remember what happened last time we went into the playoffs with TJ and Dmo. We no fix this we will be repeating history.
     
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