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The Houston Rockets are trying to acquire free agent Ramon Sessions

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by abyss, Aug 25, 2014.

  1. sutton

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    Sign&trade require 3yr contract, Ramon Sessions will likely be 4-5m per year, 12-15m 3yr with 3rd year team option.
     
  2. sutton

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    reagular season was good, but very bad playoff performance.
     
  3. jump shooter

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    Why are people comparing Sessions to Canaan when Canaan hasn't played but a few minutes in the league? Of course Sessions is better than Canaan cuz he's proven.
     
  4. saleem

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    Where would the flexibility go after that? Say no to a 3 yr contract for Sessions.
    He is not worth more than a 1 year guaranteed contract, plus a 2nd year team option.
     
  5. ROXTXIA

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    Unless this is simply Morey's attempt at being clever by, say, offering a chance of a 2nd round pick and a TPE (of about $3,000,000, say?) to Milwaukee for Sessions...

    ...and Sessions goes into a trade for a player we actually want? Sessions + Gee + NO first rounder + Who Knows What + S***, Beats Me in exchange for Bledsoe or....you get the idea.

    It gets complicated to do stuff like that, but I wouldn't put it past Morey if it meant upgrading the team.
     
  6. PhatPharaoh

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    does anyone else think that this is just a tactical move to make Phoenix trade Bledsoe/accept a lower offer from Morey?
     
  7. CantGoLeft

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    How about a little context? This was back in 2011-2012 for 23 games/701 minutes on a Laker team that lost in the WC Semis.

    The 3P% was on only 17/35 shots.
    The Off and Def rating from basketball-reference are estimates. The ones from NBA.com are calculated.
    His NBA.com OffRtg was 108.9 (team OffRtg 103.3)
    His NBA.com DefRtg was 108.0 (team DefRtg 101.7)

    Even Jeremy Lin can look good with a small sample size. :rolleyes:
     
  8. charlieaustin

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    I don't think anyone has an idea of what Morey is doing.
     
  9. LCAhmed

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    I think we need another PG because depth issues?
     
  10. The Cat

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    By the way, while I'll agree that Alex Kennedy is highly annoying, he's not the type to outright make things up. In fact, it's quite the opposite. His "gameplan" can be broken down into 2 categories: A) he regurgitates or "confirms" news already broken from other sources like Woj, Amick, etc. and B) he whores himself out to the agent community and lets them use him as they see fit, in exchange for the occasional signing scoop (usually about non-A-list players).

    He's annoying because he generally has no opinions of his own, often acts as a robot and rarely adds any unique value. But he's not a troll/pot-stirrer. He does communicate with agents, and once in a while, as a reward for the annoying game he plays, they do give him an exclusive on something (again, usually with B-list players, like Sessions). That's why I wouldn't write him/this off.
     
  11. Aleron

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    You'll have a hard time convincing people with that line of thought considering he was flat out making **** up during the dwight free agency
     
  12. The Cat

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    No he wasn't. The "extra money still weighing on Howard" stuff? Broussard reported the exact same thing ("50/50!"), and so did someone else. They're not just pulling that stuff out of thin air. They're saying it because they're specifically told that by someone with close connections to the player.

    Now, does that mean that information is true or that they're legitimate reporters? No. The difference between the Woj/Amick tier and the Kennedy/Broussard tier is that the latter take whatever they're told at face value and run with it (this is why agents love them), while the former seek out more confirmation from additional sources, especially if the information doesn't make sense.

    In a complex free agency situation like Dwight in 2013 or LeBron in 2014, it's easy to look like a fool, if you take the Kennedy/Broussard approach. But when you're almost to September and you're talking about the recruitment of a B-list free agent like Ramon Sessions, there's probably not a huge leverage game being played. It's usually fairly simple and straight-forward.
     
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    Zero chance Daryl Morey is going to give Sessions guaranteed $ beyond 2014-15 but you are correct that a sign-and-trade requires a three year deal. Only the first year's salary must be guaranteed, though.

    Here is Morey's likely strategy, and rationale:

    1) Consolidate the roster, by trading one or even two non-essential players for Sessions, plus, one or more of Milwaukee's crop of second round picks.

    2) If/when Morey later packages three players with the Pelicans first round pick plus one or more second round picks, you want these three players to make a reasonable amount of money, as it's easier to make the salaries add up, so the trade actually works under the collective bargaining agreement.

    3) Here are the second round picks Milwaukee owns in the next two drafts: Milwaukee's own 2015 second rounder (#34-ish overall?), Atlanta's 2015 second rounder (#48-ish overall?), Milwaukee's own 2016 second rounder, New Orleans' 2016 second rounder, and the Clippers' 2016 second rounder. That is five second rounders in two years.

    Here is what Morey may be offering Milwaukee:

    Donatas Motiejunas (makes about $1.5 mil in 2014-15) and Ishmael Smith (makes about $900,000 in 2014-15) to Milwaukee;

    Ramon Sessions (three years, $10.8 mil, but with only the first year, at around $3.6 mil, guaranteed) plus one, maybe two, second round picks to Houston.

    This move sets Houston up for making a big quantity-for-quality trade later in the season, consolidates the roster, AND obtains some value for Motiejunas, who does not look like a guy who needs to be in an NBA rotation, but who may inexplicably still possess some trade value. Jeff Adrien is a better player, so is Robert Covington, probably; Houston DOES NOT NEED Motiejunas. Sessions is also probably slightly better than Ishmael Smith, for that matter. Not sure Sessions plays much for Houston, though.

    Houston can later package Kostas Papanikolaou with Ramon Sessions, Clint Capela, maybe Isaiah Canaan, definitely the Pelicans first round pick and the second rounder obtained from Milwaukee, for a guy who makes quite a bit of money.
     
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    We
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    trading
    DMo
    for
    Sessions.
     
  15. saleem

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    I hope you are right. D-Mo should be used as part of a better sign and trade deal.
     
  16. FTW Rockets FTW

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    No, just STOP.

    Covington is not better than DMO. Not now and never in the future.

    Covington is a grade A scrub while DMo has top 10 PF potential.
     
  17. treeman

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    Translation: DMo walks to Dallas first chance he gets. :grin:
     
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    AND gets overpaid while being left off his national team!...;)
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