what would it take to get jermaine o'neal? he's young, athletic, developed, and unhappy with the pacers. rumors are that he likes the spurs, but what about a sign and trade with indiana and send off anybody but yao. i think hes a better free agent than j.kidd. he'd help yao by taking off some of the low post pressure and hes consistent with 20-10 every night. i say send mobley and griffin maybe moochie juss cause he's a cancer and it would work.
Jermaine O'Neal or Eddie Griffin and Maurice Taylor? I'd choose Jermaine O'neal! Impossible to get him. That would be awesome. We'd have to give up Steve Francis to possibly get him. And I wouldn't give up Steve Francis...unless we get Jamaal Tinsley too. Maybe give them Collier.
That would be a coup!!! Hell I would throw in Griffin and a 1st round pick to get O'Neal and Tinsley! Tinsley is a better PG than Francis and would be a great blend with Ming.
I concur, that would be one hell of a frontline, with a pretty smart PG running the offense. Our shooting would be crap though. Neither Tinsley or Posey can shoot.
No way! Francis and Griffin to get O'neal and Tinsley...okay fine. Yes way! I would even add a 1st rounder too! That would be awesome. Jamaal Tinsley/Moochie Norris Cuttino Mobley/James Posey/Juaquin Hawkins James Posey/Bostjan Nachbar/Terence Morris/Glen Rice Jermaine O'Neal/Maurice Taylor Yao Ming/Kelvin Cato Then we find a way to move Mo Taylor for a power forward who can backup PF and C...and we are ready to contend! That would be one great team....
not my first i was thrown out originally makman. but tinsley is worthless he can't shoot and o'neal could juss leave if he wants, he already said spurs are the frontrunner.
Tinsley sucks compared to Francis. I would love to get J O'Neal or Elton Brand or Pau Gasol, but it's not going to happen. Is J O'Neal better than Francis? I don't think so, but that is my opinion.
Well, we know that in order to do a S&T, O'Neal would have to want to come here. So all the trade possibilities aside, why would he want to go through the trouble of trying to broker a S&T when he can just sign outright with an already established title contender like SA?
some people on this board are idiots. francis is way better than tinsley and better than jermaine o'neal. that would be a stupid trade. mobley and griffen for jermaine would be good though...but indy wouldnt do it. everybody needs to back up off steve's nuts.
The only way to acquire a star player is with another star player. First, Jermaine O'Neal would be magnificent playing alongside Ming. However, I would require a point guard as well to take SF's place....so, of course Tinsley is not in SF's league. Again, I'm not saying I'd do it. I'm just stating the obvious if a real trade is being proposed. Second, trading Eddie Griffin (it's spelled G-R-I-F-F-I-N by the way) and Cuttino Mobley for O'Neal is not even realistic.
That's obviously lopsided... but then again it's way better to get Mobley and Griffin from us than nothing from the Spurs. Problem is that Jermaine would have to pick us over the Spurs, which won't happen.
You're smoking crack. #1 -- The object is to get the best player in the trade. Francis is simply a better player than O'Neal (and that's not to diminish O'Neal in any way. I love the guy -- he hooked me up in my fantasy basketball team!). #2 -- You can't give up our outside threat for another inside threat. It's not an inside-in game. It's an inside-OUT game.
That's why I'm not sure I would do it. We would have a heck of a front court but we'd have a weak backcourt.
I would crap myself if we got Jermaine--I LOVE his hustle and intensity--dat boy gooood. Ahh to dream...this is what GARM is for is it not?
I think J. O'neal is very overated. I'd much rather have Elton Brand, who is a complement moreso to Ming. O'neal is a face up player. He doesn't punish people in the paint and he makes Kate Moss look fat. I don't like the fact that he's more of a face to the basket player and he disappears when the times get tough. I'm not saying he's not a good player, but I don't like his fazing out of games. Brand is a defender, hits the glass hard, gets a ton of blocks and most importantly is one hell of a Brusing pf. He's also a tradtional back down into the paint kinda of player I like. He doesn't have any playoff expierence so I don't know if he would fade and disappear like O'neal though. Bottom line. We need a brusing pf thats gunna punish people that comes into the paint and put a hurting on some guards and withstand some of the stronger pf's. We need a guy whose gunna step up when the time counts and not disappear like Casper the Ghost. Jermaine would be a nice acquistion but not at the expense of Steve Francis like some of suggested. Maybe Griff, Cat, Motay, Cato, and Rice.
This will never happen! If he comes anywhere in Texas it'll be to San Antonio. The only way for Houston to get him is to offer Yao Ming, period. Francis, Mobley or any other combination of smaller players will not be satisfactory to Indiana unless they are complete idiots. Remember, the cardinal rule in the NBA is that you don't trade big for small.
