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Dude obviously has an agenda against Hamas, you can tell just by the way he speaks about them. Most people do not suppert Hamas but he seems to have something personal against them and considering he's the son maybe he does have a personal history that people don't know about. The cost of innocent children and civilians is far too great a price to pay. If you think Israel is just going to get rid of Hamas by killing thousands of innocent children you have no idea how the world works and your perception of reality is laughable. This type of action will only grow more and more supporters of groups like Hamas. Terror only inspires more terror. It is a non ending cycle that does not seem to have an end. I'm not sure when america and israel will realize this.
Don't bother, people here are so blinded by Hamas propaganda that they actually believe they are "freedom fighters". So sad
I wonder if lol123 has an agenda.. Let's see, joined this month, most posts about Israel... Smh, how much is Israel paying you to spam?
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Got ya, thanks. I don't think I am, but off course I am a part of one side of this conflict so obviously I will not be objective. But what am I diverting here? By saying that Hamas mission is destroying my country and fight for world Islamic Jihad? its in their official charter, not my words: - "Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors". - "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim)." - "Allah is its goal, the Prophet its model, the Qur'an its Constitution, Jihad its path and death for the case of Allah its most sublime belief." That is from Hamas first page charter. How am I diverting any fact here?
Make your original statement true by quoting all the people who think Hamas are freedom fighters. Sounds like there should be many.
Ok, challenge accepted... It should be quite easy, there have been plenty in here lately, I'll try to get to it in the morning
so... I started reading back the posts and comments and indeed I found what I was looking for but I will not go there, because reading those comments made me realize how one sided I was in trying to defend my country's reputation even though I do not agree with a lot of the acts and views, especially with not reaching for peace. I think that in this time, most people are educated enough or have already "picked sides", and there is no need for me to explain my fear of Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, nor the need of Israel to defend its citizens from terror threat. However I did find out that some of those people here are Palastinians, so I call for peace negotiation with them. I as the self proclaimed representative of Israel in Clutchfans, support the Palastinian right for self determination based on the 67' border lines as a 2 state solution. Israel, Egypt and Jordan will be responsible for the economic development of the Palastinian state, in the goal for being self sufficient with in 15-20 years. Do you, the representative of the Palastinians in Cluthfans, acknowledge the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state under the 67' border lines and no further demands for land we be called upon?
Most people do have a personal agenda against terrorism and a desire to disavow any association towards it, it's called a freaking conscience.
I am definitely not a representative of the Palestinians on this board, but would be interested in their opinion of your proposal. Personally, I think both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist, but I don't know enough about how the 1967 borders were drawn to present an opinion.
