i'm curious what you guys think. if this team performs well next season and gets into the playoffs, will you give the credit to jeff van gundy or to rudy t? if you believe it's rudy that should get the credit, does that mean that don chaney should get credit for rudy's championship teams?
It depends on how much the team changes. Before the Rockets won the two championships, the Rockets drafted Sam Cassell and Robert Horry. The Rockets also made the blockbuster deals for Mario Elie before the 1st and Drexler before the 2nd. If the Rockets stay intact and run a similar offense, Rudy would get part of the team building credit for any success next year.
Why do you assume that only one person can get the credit? BTW, your thread title should be "does rudy get the credit if THE ROCKETS succeed." Success is not Rudy's or JVG's. It's the Rockets'. I don't give too much credit (or blame) to coaches anyway.
Simple!! If they make the playoffs with the same boring As@ (selfish) offense, then Rudy should get some credit. If JVG completely ditches the ISO game, which I think he will, and move this team into an unselfish style of play, which leads them comfortable into the playoffs, then YES!!! JVG gets the credit. You can tell from his press conference that JVG believes in unselfish team oriented play, which is the opposite of the Rockets game.
If the Rockets succeed the players will be praising the coaches and the coaches will be praising the players and Bill and Calvin will bring up the point form time to time that we shouldn't ever forget Rudy's contribution to the development of the team.
Unfortunately, the general perception will be that JVG came in a magically turned the thing around all on his own...but to be fair he'll be blamed if we don't make the playoffs again, too
imo, whatever the rockets do next year is the work of JVG. rudy had 4 consecutive trips to lottoland. if JVG can get this team into the playoffs, there is no reason to give rudy credit for it. Jbesides, VG needs to be able to form his own identity with the rockets, not live in the shadow of rudy. if he comes in and gets the rockets to do things on the court that they did not do under rudy, it's his responsibility...along with the players of course.
I give the players credit for maturing as basketball players. This is similar to when Don Chaney was coach and couldn't get it done and then Rudy took over and won a championship a couple of years later with the same players. It's not so much who the coach is as much as it is the players.
A coach goes a long way in helping a player mature. MJ wouldn't have matured as fast under Doug Collins, than he did when Phil came along.
I think a few things would happen: If the ROX turn it around and play as a team then JVG's discipline will recieve much attention versus Rudy's daycare center style of coaching. If Steve and Cat still underachieve then I think we will all see that it doesn't matter who the caoch is, but is up to the players to take some responsibility and most importantly accountability. Unfortunately players these days have to be motivated to do their JOB.
Because of the "what have you done for me LATELY?" mentality of pro-sports--JVG will get the credit. Moreover, I think he will deserve it when and if the time comes...
If Eddie Griffin stop shooting three pointers all day and learns how to play, if Steve Francis learns how to run a fast break, if Mobley learns when to pass and when to shoot, if Moochie stops dribble madness, and if Yao starts getting the ball more often then Van Gundy will get the credit. If we make the playoffs as an 8th seed and none of those things happen then Van Gundy doesn't really deserve much credit.
In one word: NO. Rudy might have put the talent together but if the team succeeds under JVG (which I expect it to do), he should get the credit for making them play as a team et al. I love Rudy but he could not get them to play disciplined ball every night.
well, rudy did asemble this great lineup. but, i would say he can get lil credit for the way he assembled this team to be title contenders again not because we won a championship (still wishing).. so i would have to say no. we all saw how the rocs went this season and last season. there's a lack of mental developement through the players, a lack of discipline, and lack of maturation. i think JVG will unleash all those hidden talents from our players that rudy's no discipline system couldnt do. so i would say the credit will go to the players and jvg for their hardwork and sacrifice (hopefully).
I think the Bulls success had more to do with Pippen and Grant coming into their own, basically giving Jordan reliable teammates he could trust. The same goes for Hakeem. I don’t think Rudy helped him to mature and use his teammates. I think he just finally got some teammates that could do something when given the chance.
