Rockets sign Trevor Ariza to 4-year, $32 million deal

Funny that you ignored the comparison I made using the last 3 seasons.

 

The post I was replying to was quoting stats as evidence about Ariza's great defense on Kevin Durant. This was merely pointing out the facts on his playoff series that just ended. While his defense improved on George as the series progressed Georges 3pt shooting overall was in fact 44%.

 

Catch and shoot will be better, and lead to fewer turnovers. If he can slash, I am all for it.

 

Urghhh. ....no.

Morey's plan blew up right in his face.

 

Plus we still have the MLE.

What is better than having Parsons or Ariza? Having both Ariza and Parsons. They can play together we we go with Parsons at the 4, can go really long with Ariza at the 2.

Parsons and Harden played heavy minutes last year, won't be a problem no.

 

Great deal. Fantastic signing.

I approve.

 

I didn't like him when he was a Rocket, but he played great last season (had him on my fantasy team, and he had some amazing games, at least statistically, and the bits I saw on NBA Broadband International looked good, too). I hope he doesn't regress again after a contract year. In any case, with this reasonable contract, I think he is an asset that's tradable. I hope the guy we get to fill the remaining cap room before we match Parsons is even better.

 

Ariza is not putting up a 8 w/s without wall, and Ariza is not playing 36 min per game here

Ariza will probably give us a 5.2 w/s in 30min, which is good enough for me

Can't compare Ariza and Lin, they play two different positions and roles

 

In this case there is only a bird in the hand. The bush has no birds in it if we don't match.

I really don't understand how for the last 30 days we've been discussing we must trade Lin and Asik in order to sign top free agent(s) then we can go over the cap to sign Parsons. My son understood this the first time I told him what why we didn't keep Parsons for the 4th year on the cheap.

Note to all Clutchfans, you might want to read Bimathugs articles on the cap breakdown and learn what the team has as options before you make comments. I know it can get in the weeds at times but you can get the man parts and leave the math to him.

 

Because that's a very unfair comparison. I used career because it includes ups and downs for both players. For fairness you would need to use 3 seasons at the same point in their career to compare the players to each other directly. Just for fun I did this for you JL WS/48 .107, TA .084, first 4: JL .106, TA .093. Knowing this would you really be that excited over either of them?

 

If his shooting in 2013-2014 was indeed an outlier and he regresses and performs like he did in any of the 4 seasons prior, his contract will be a detriment not an asset.

His defensive skill would still be valuable, but not for 4 years 32 million or 3years 23 million.

 

You don't match a max contract, then bench the guy after he started and we won 50+ games.

Asik is gone, we need defense on that bench.

Our starting line-up was really good last season, if Parsons continues his progression he will be better than last year, but with Ariza his minutes will be reduced.

You have to make that decision now, we don't want a contract like that as a bench player.

We still have ways to find offensive spark plugs.

I can see this being a team where the starters can blow a team out...then the bench can at least defend and hold that lead.

Also we are going overboard with how good Ariza is. The West is tougher than the East, he isn't the most consistant guy out there either.

 

Manu isn't on a max contract. If we match him, that is a decision to start him.

You are also assuming Ariza is good enough to start or that it is the right move.

Beverly won the starting spot from Lin by earning it. Right now Parsons is better than Ariza. Manu in his younger days went to the 6th man role after being a starter. It was clear that those moves were best for the team.

Our bench couldn't hold leads and without Asik sucked on defense. With Asik gone, moving Parsons to the bench won't help on that side of the ball.

Our starting line-up was a strength last season, why would you mess with that?

 

I agree with you that Ariza #'s is nothing to be excited about, especially if 2013-2014 was just an aberration, but there is no need to muddle the point with comparing him to Lin. Bring Lin into the argument only clouds it, due simply to all the nonsense from his many defenders/detractors.

Just a perusal of Ariza's 2013-2014 numbers and his previous 4-5 seasons will scare anyone that is overly optimistic about this signing. IMO there's a good chance it works, because Ariza as a good perimeter defender does improve the Rockets greatest weakness, but there is a also a good chance his 4 year 32 million good value contract becomes a terrible one when he shoots like its 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, or 2012 instead of 2013

 

Great signing at a bargain price. Now the question is, if we match Parsons, who should start? I doubt Ariza signed herhere to be a bench player. But at the same time, do we really let a "max" guy in Parsons come off the bench?

 

They both start.

 

Best way to screw Cuban is to let the Mavs choke on CPs deal... No freaking way we should match that crappy contract...

Morey is too smart for that...

 

Yeah, but did you see what Casspi & Garcia gave us in the backup swingman minutes? Garbage.

This guy is an upgrade.

He just needs to play off a ball dominant guard handling the rock to be efficient.

This should be an improvement over the nothing we had last year.

 

I'm on the NO-MATCH bandwagon as well. Ariza is an adequate replacement for Parsons imo, worse offense, better defense which is what this team needs.

 

You can't give a good reason not to match it. It does not limit the Rockets salary in any way. They are a better team on the floor with a rotation that includes both Parsons and Ariza. Just because you think CP is now overpaid does not make it a bad deal for Houston.