[ProBballTalk] Bosh would prefer 4 year max over staying with Heat for less

The MLB Union doesn't have to worry about a salary cap.

 

which is why i am not bothered with all three of them back in Miami . . FOR BIG MONEY!!

If LeBron stays . .. and they get Melo in place of Bosh
I will chuckle . .. .
Cause it is the same team as this year . . . minus defense + some scoring

Rocket River

 

And perhaps the NBA Union won't after next CBA. I can think of two billion reasons there is pressure not to accept low ball deals.

 

What happens again on July 10th?

 

That is when teams can officially sign players to a contract.

 

Thanks

 

I'm having mixed feelings about getting Bosh vs. getting Love. While getting Love may mean losing Parsons, Love is only 25 and Bosh is already 30. Love's 3 point % is way better than Bosh (just ~average). What worries me the most is that Bosh says he doesn't bang anymore. Why would you want to pay max money for someone who doesn't want to do what he's good at?

 

IMO Its not debate, hands down Love is the much better option for this team, whether its at the expense of Parsons, picks, Beverley and the whole barn or not. The only reason we'd be going after Bosh and not Love is just because we flat out couldn't get Love, whether it's because we don't have enough assets or because the Twolves just want to hold on to Love, he just isn't available to us.

In the case, Anthony, Lebron, Love are all impossible to attain, I'd have no problem with us going balls out for Bosh. There isn't any better options at this point, and we just don't have the time to wait another year or two (with no cap space) to gamble and hope some other all star player will fall into our lap with a S&T, Howard will be turning 29 soon and has played 10+ seasons already.

So if we get Bosh it's because Love isn't attainable for us, and because Anthony and James are choosing to sign else where. Bosh is our last, pray that we can land him.

 

Because we like to collect players who don't want to play to their strenghth.

Harden - off the ball shooter / cutter
Howard - p&r
Bosh - post game

Especially p&r with Howard is mind boggling...dude doesn't want to win!

 

Bosh has always been a face up player, he played more along the elbows rather than perimeter in toronto, but post game? wtf are you people on?

And Harden off the ball? the guy played on the ball with freaking Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook....his lack of play making has been basically responsible for Durant's playoff slide.

 

Well, imagine occasional Lin/Bev + Howard p&r with Harden and Parsons spotting up or cutting...Harden coud save energy for defense.

But no, our superstars want to play their own game...and we want to add another one like this in Bosh. Imagine...Bosh is better than Howard in post game, but Rockets would be using Howard in the post instead of Bosh.

I don't want to say Bosh doesn't better our team, because he does. But whoever outside of LeBron or Durant we add, we can't make it work because our coach isn't holding anyone accountable. That's why I don't care who we get...we won't win a championship until Harden shows consistent maturity on court.

 

Bosh with Parsons > Love without Parsons

 

Bosh is not a post player, Bosh is a face-up player, his post game while existing was a supplementary skill, it was never his primary offense, he is more Ralph and less Hakeem. Miami didn't take him out of the post, they pushed him out to the perimeter. He's better at taking an opposing player off the dribble from 10 feet, than he is at posting them up at 5.

As for Harden, when has his game ever looked like something suited to exclusively off the ball play? he's a playmaker, he has great court vision and very good passing skills and the ability to create his own shot. What he has never shown is that off ball ability to be able to see where the natural movement of players creates openings that aren't really designed to be. His shooting ability makes him an above average off ball player, but if you wanted to use him in that role, you'd get just as much burn out of JJ Redick.

 

You obviously don't know much about post play. Facing up is a post position.

Bosh became an outside shooter in Miami because he played the third wheel. As he admitted he also didn't have the gas tank to post up as well as play the Heat's uptempo, aggressive defense.

 

Sorry should be more clear: Harden should spot occasionaly because as much as I have seen, too much offensive load has been put on him and he's got nothing left for defensive end.

I'm sure he would add another dimension to our offense if he would be willing to spot up though, kind of like Parsons. Occasionaly of course.

If we get Bosh however, he would probably be the one spotting up, so Harden can drive freely under the rim.

 

Neither does Hakeem using your logic. Bosh has never been a post up player, the guy has only had 1 season in his entire career where more than 25% of his scoring attempt possessions were post ups, compare that to an actual post player? It's a supplementary skill, not his bread and butter (and he even admits he's not that good at it, whereas he led the league in mid range shooting % in 2012-13...)

 

Bosh for straight $$$ is way better than Parsons and picks for Love.

Bosh is a two way player who is clearly very capable of playing off ball and cooperating with other ball dominant superstars. He would obliterate pick and rolls. Howard and Bosh would be an absolutely dominant front court on both ends. Yeah, Love has better range but Bosh has enough range to badly punish teams who double Dwight and that's all that's needed offensively. I'm giddy as **** thinking about this. I have no idea what's wrong with people who don't want Bosh. He's so perfect for the Rockets it's unreal.

Bev/Harden/Parsons/Bosh/Howard

That's a top 5 offense AND a top 5 defense.

 

If Im not wrong (may be), we would have to trade Motiejunas and Jones to make room for Bosh, right?

It would be the named starting 5, plus? ... Nick Johnson, Canaan?, Daniels? Covington? ...

 

A lot of people are allowing all the jokes about Bosh cloud their judgement. Aside from Kevin Love, adding Bosh is a best case scenario IMO, much better fit than Melo.

He is still a spectacular player, and would fill every need this team has, and he would be allowed to play his much more natural position as a 4. A frontline of Bosh/Howard/Parsons would give us insane length. Not to mention we retain assets so Morey can work on upgrading that bench.

Come to us Chris, we've gotten better looking since the last time you turned us down

 

Everyone is blaming Wade and his knees, which I agree are a problem, but Bosh is the one that needs to step his game up. He plays like a $20mm role player. 16pts and less than 7 rebounds is pretty bad for your only low post option. I don't really even care that much about the points buy the rebounding is pathetic. Melo averaged more, hell Jones averaged more.

He should have had a better season this year with Wade missing more time. It should have been more of the "Big 2" with Bosh and LeBron. Instead it was all Lebron, Bosh was even worse in the post season. Maybe a change of scenery would help?