What reasoning would he have for leaving Miami then if he ends up taking a pay cut elsewhere? And yes, the Rockets can still keep Parsons if they were able to sign Bosh or any other FA.
The Rockets were a deeply flawed 54 win team in the stacked West. Biggest hole was the PF position. To get Bosh in that role while only giving up bench fodder would be huge.
Valid points. But nor player, including Harden is signed that long (7-8 years). And resigning him in a couple years cant be assumed a given. So the focus must be the 3-4 year window. Love certainty has appeal. But Love does not command his own fate at this point. And Minny is a reluctant partner, demanding much in return to pry him away this summer.
Love is signed for 1 year. Bosh will be signed for 4 years. That contract length can be the difference between Love-drama that may destroy our championship hopes in one season, or a stable 3-player core where we can continuously upgrade depth knowing the big 3 are all under contract. I will take either deal. But I would prefer the one where we keep Parsons, Beverley, Harden, Dwight, and 3rd star all under team control for 3-4 years.
IS IT possible to get him?? How much is his salary back at Heat, and can we offer him a better deal than what's he gonna get there? I think if Lebron signs back to heat, he'd be less incline to come to us. I would definitely love to have him here. If not Love, Bosh would be a steal. Morey get it done!!! :grin:
If Love drama then let him go and go after Durant. Or sign and trade him for more valuable assets to make more moves. Also seems no one has mentioned if we sign Bosh for max we most likely will have to go over the cap to resign Parsons which will cash strap us to make any other moves. Not sure if Bosh's talents and age warrant those circumstances.
Of course I know they can't be signed for 7-8 years, they would expire on their current contracts and re-sign to 5 year deals, which is 7-8 years. Why would Harden and Love re-sign? Because they would both be superstars in their prime pairing together, being offered max money on a winning playoff contending team. They would also have Howard as a semi 3rd star who will have been degressing. Still I bet he will be a quality starting center until he retires like shaq was. In the other scenario, I believe Harden could bounce because his team would only degress given that Howard and Bosh will start to break down when their 33-34. Why re-sign with old used to be stars when he's in his prime trying to win a ring? Just saying, 8 year championship window>>> a 4 year one. So Love, even at the price of Parsons, is much more valuable then Bosh. We'd have 8 years of MLE's, draft picks and trades to replace Parsons.
They don't expire in the same season. LA will have capspace. NY will have capspace. Neither team will have any asset worth a damn. Rockets likely get nothing if Love leaves. The Rockets will not have capspace in forever regardless of what happens. Why do you think they made Parsons a RFA this year and going all out for all the FAs? This is our last chance capwise to do damage.
That prognosis requires too many assumptions over too long a time period. No one can possibly know what a player may or may not do, or what his choices will be. Everything being equal, Love > Bosh. But things are not equal. Not even close.
I agree with this and that is why I would rather have us do a S&T with Minnesota for K2 (Love and Martin).We will have to sign players either way, to fill out the roster, whether that is Bosh or Love. PLUS, we would already have a backup to Harden in Martin. I could see that happening as well... Especially with Bosh. Howard? Not so much... In terms of leaving. Harden would definitely stay. Again, this is why I would want us to go after Love... Its not like Love is the only player we would be getting back... Makes you wonder though, maybe we could send Parsons + Lin + D-MO + JHam + 1st Round Pick for Love + Martin + Shved? Our lineup would then be: Beverley/Shved/Daniels Harden/Martin/Johnson Casspi/Covington Love/TJones Howard/(?) (possibly Varejao if he is cut by Cavs - yes, yes he is injury-proned but imagine us having a Noah-like player backing up Howard! ) To me, I would rather improve upon our bench AND also get a 3rd star, (knocking out 2 birds with 1 stone) than keep Parsons and have virtually the same bench as last year... Sure, we have a bench, if we keep Bosh (we dont have to give up anything) but as stated above, I would want us to improve our bench and the only way to do that is by a S&T agreement with someone... K.Love fits that bill AND he's younger! He will grow with Harden and Howard, instead of seeing Bosh grow older than Howard and Harden... Then having to let him go, to see what we could get and then try to go for another free agent, danging an age old Bosh over them.
The only way I consent to a Love trade if I am Morey is if Love agrees to opt in to the last year of his deal (like CP3 deal with the Clippers). That will give us two years
I'm more leaning to Bosh joining our team now. The way I see it, I rank them as: James - The best player in the game. Love - He will be an upgrade in our PF position. Bosh - A two way player and could play both PF and C positions. Anthony - An all star. But, there are some flaws: James - Getting him will mean that we need to clear a lot of cap space since he wants the max. Love - Looks like Minessota is not budging and would like to keep him for one more year. Bosh - He is getting older and no longer as dominant as he once was. Anthony - A great scorer but not as much of a great player on the other end of the floor. If we can't get James or Love, I'm all in for signing Bosh.
If I was Pat Riley I would be way more interested in keeping Bosh than Wade. Wade is way easier to replace, especially in this market. If you lose Wade, you can probably replace him with Deng... They lose Bosh, who's gonna take his place?
I would then be okay with it, us exhausting our possible big free-agent options... He shouldn't be plan B though, if James doesn't come here. I just think BSPN is throwing us a bone.
Absolutely, still, I don't think my assumptions are too off base. Anyhow, i'd be extremely happy with getting either.
I love the fact that the Rockets are reporting that they would pay Bosh a near max deal because all that does is create more turmoil in Miami. If at first Bosh was thinking of taking a major paycut to keep the big three together, he has to at least hesitate now. Would he really take a paycut of 4-5 mil (guess from different reports) a year to play with Lebron (I admit is the best player in the game) and with Wade (Who at this point is a shell of himself)? This could force him back to the big three table asking for more money which could lead to Lebron to HOUSTON!
If you ask me, I prefer Bosh over Melo. But if you can get either one of them, you grab the opportunity.
I prefer Melo over Bosh and this is why... Yes, you have Parsons at SF and TJones at PF... I truly feel like in terms of talent, Melo has more of it, compared to Bosh. (Parsons could be the 6th Man!) To me, when comparing the two, Bosh is more limited offensively and other than Shot Blocking, doesn't have the quickness, the explosive first step, the clutch factor. Sure, saying that Bosh has hit some clutch jumpers, but its like other people have said on here: Bosh is soft... I agree with that. He isn't intimidating and you need that intimidation factor when you face off against the PF's from the Western Conference... The Duncans, The Gasol's, The Ibaka's... Bosh will get schooled! Sure, Love may not be a solid defensive player, when compared to Bosh but he has more upside and not in his prime yet... and most likely, will end up BETTER than Bosh at 30. Better at offense (he kinda is already), better at defense and everything else. Sure, he will have flaws in his game, everyone does, but yeah. So saying that, it depends what Morey wants to do... If he wants a SF big named FA, you go with Anthony. If he wants a big named PF, you go with Love. (even if that means a S&T). If both of these options don't pan out then you settle for Bosh.
