No, let's be honest LeBron isn't happening. Melo is a possibility but I think Love is the better player especially for our team between the two. If we can't get Love ourselves, the last thing I want to do is facilitate a trade to a rival. I think Curry/Love/Bogut/Iguodala is a team that is fighting for the top seed in the West. I think that team screams San Antonio Spurs where you have a bunch of great players who are willing to play in a team atmosphere. If Love doesn't come here he needs to be sent East to the Bulls or to the Celtics. The Bulls would be good because it would put us in the driver's seat for Melo.
No, I would not do that -- assuming, as you say, that we could pay a bit more and trade him in such a way that would not facilitate Love going to the Warriors. If the only way to move him was to assist the Warriors in getting Love, then, yes, I do that -- but, i would definitely be willing to pay extra in order to not help the Warriors.
Apologies. Yes, I'd be okay with spending extra assets to hurt the chances of a potential decade long threat from forming.
Obviously only if we knew we were getting Melo, Lebron, or Bosh. Assuming we didn't know that, but wanted to clear cap anyway.......not sure. The fact that the Warriors are getting him doesn't scare me, but not having the option of trading for Love after we missed out on free agents...that would be bad.
Well in this hypothetical situation i'm guessong the Rockets will have a guarantee from a big name free agent like Lebron, Anthony, or even Bosh. I would say no, trade Lin at a steeper price. Curry/Love/Iggy/Bogut would potentially be too dangerous of a squad to help facilitate.
I would. If GSW is two second rounders away from acquiring Kevin Love, I am pretty sure GSW can find the equivalent asset elsewhere even if the Rockets do not make a deal with them.
Damn good question. But its a firm no for me. I don't help a conference rival get a player that we covet. I'd rather pay the steeper price to keep Love out of GS & in our realm of possibilities. If Melo or LeBron is ready to come to Hou & we need cap space & GS is the only team willing to take on Lins contract is the only way I do this.
Agreed. If that's all that's between them and Kevin Love, then we need to accept they are getting Love and see how we can benefit.
I don't see a couple of extra 2nd rounder being the tipping point for Minnesota to pull the trigger on Love to GS. If they were, I'm sure GS could obtain them somehow, like Carl said. So yes, I pull the trigger on that for the Rockets because it's worth the gamble.
If it means they are trading Klay Thompson, a 1st, those picks and David Lee for Love and we are getting LeBron James and able to keep Chandler Parsons? Absolutely. But if that is the only way GSW could get Love and he would otherwise go elsewhere, then no. I'd much rather trade a future first and/or Terrance Jones than help a competitor get a good piece. This is also a really good point. The only pick that has the potential to be really high is the Knicks 2015 2nd. The other will, at best, be mid 2nd.
Which teams that have cap space need a point guard? Lakers, Dallas, Toronto, Milwaukee, and possibly orlando if they decline jameer nelson's option. Of the available pgs only Lowry and bledsoe are better than Lin, which leaves 2-3 teams as likely trade partners. I doubt it will be that hard to trade him. It won't take as much as people here think.
I still think that the "Dealing Lin for Cap Space" is only a back-up plan and a threat to be used while negotiating a sign and trade with the current team of a possible incoming free agent. I don't think that such a trade will actually happen. The Rockets are letting everybody know that they can make such a trade happen (via Sam Amick, Feigen, Woj, etc.) but really don't have any intention of actually making it happen unless absolutely necessary. There are just some substantial disadvantages of doing things via the cap room route (as oppose to trades and sign and trades) so that Morey will want to avoid it unless the alternative is impossible or too costly.
No. But the Warriors may not need the Rockets help anyways to get Love. Seems as if they already have the framework of a [potential] deal in place. Why is Houston always on the ****ty end? Here LA, here's Chris Paul! Here LA, here's Dwight Howard! No, I was not okay with giving up the most assets while not getting Chris Paul. Acquring Andrew Bynum, fabulous idea! And now let's help get Kevin Love to the Warriors!!! Bend over Houston!
Well if you deal Lin for 2nd Rounders I would have to think that Morey has a plan to get one of the top free agents this year correct? Otherwise, why not keep Lin for next season and get that capspace for next summer? I'd also think that Lin's value as a back up is more than two future 2nd rounders coming in, especially on a team that only has one serviceable point guard aside from Lin.
Excellent point. Why would GSW be willing to facilitate HOU getting Carmelo? Perhaps because other trades cost them steeper assets? In my thinking, it would depend on the alternative for the Rockets; how steep is it in terms of costs of "assets". I would like more context around this question.
Just a thought: If the Rockets do execute a sign and trade, they will have more than their exceptions. They'll also have Jones, Canaan, Daniels, and unguaranteed contracts - enough to trade or s&t for a player making up to ~$9.5 million along with a bunch of picks, including the Pelicans pick to facilitate the deal. For instance, would Toronto accept a Jones, Canaan, NOP pick for Amir trade if Lowry leaves? Morey really has the opportunity to build an amazing team if things fall in place.
There may not be much, if any, cap room next summer, because Parsons is likely going to eat a huge chunk of the cap space created by Asik and Lin coming off the books. Basically Morey has committed to adding another big piece this summer just before re-signing Parsons (using bird rights). It would be a stroke of good fortune if we were able to sign Parsons to a modest deal and still be able to clear substantial cap room for next summer.
God I keep forgetting about Parsons hahaha If that's the case then I guess I would also trade Lin for future picks to help Golden State out.
I'd only trade Lin if Lebron, Love or Melo were coming in. Now if GSWs is going to get Love and we are getting Melo or Lebron. I'd do that. But if it's just to move Lin to save money and for cap space that may never get used, then no. I'd let Les ride out his pick.
The goal for the Rockets should be to improve the Rockets. If we have a good reason to move Lin, then take the best deal on moving Lin.