As Carmelo Anthony leans toward leaving New York, Chicago and Houston emerge as frontrunners

I seriously think we are in the best if not top 3 teams currently to land either Melo or James. Morey has done quite a feast in order to put us in this position. I doubt money is an issue with James as he is already making a lot of money with endorsements and adding the Asia connections, the money would just pile on even more. James is more concern with winning championships and we have the younger version of the big 3 blueprint to offer in Harden and Howard. Melo is the same, if his heart is really about winning championships.

no doubt 99% of the people would pick James over Melo. I, too, would agreed with this. James is a proven leader on the court which we lack, this alone make us an even better team. He's a great and willing passer too, which helps with Harden often ISO.

 

That is ridiculous. Noah is not Asik on offense. He has much better hands, moves much more fluidly, etc. Asik is a big question mark to catch a pass and a big question mark to finish once he does. He's hesitant with the ball in his hands,even under the rim.

 

And yet they both average about the same amount of points as starters while Asik has a better field goal percentage.

Even if you think Noah is better than Asik on offense, thats like arguing the tortuous is faster than the snail in a race that includes the rabbit and the road runner. It's a ridiculous argument because both players suck on the offensive end.

 

And to add to that, we should be comparing Noah to Dwight in terms of cornerstones.

 

If you believe in Advanced Stats, Asik was beaten big time in offensive win shares by Noah. Noah was actually on par with Dwight Howard, in fact he was a little better. FG% is skewed because Noah actually takes jump shots whereas if Asik gets the ball more than 2 feet from the basket he starts to panic looking for another player to give the ball to.

Asik has one skill on offense. (2 if you count pick setting) He can get the ball at the rim and try to dunk or lay it up. He's not very good at either.

Noah isn't a good offensive player though, but he's not as bad as Asik. He's a net PLUS on offense.

 

the problem with that comparison is that you can only compare them on the defensive end because there is no comparison on the offensive end.

 

I agree, but let's not go crazy and call Noah Asik.

 

Noah > Asik by far.

It is why Asik only played 12 minutes a game behind Noah.

DD

 

Congratulations, the tortuous is faster than the snail! :grin:

Dwight Howard is laughing at this.

 

By the way, I have lots of respect for your opinion.

 

Hahaha, who's taking Lin? I can easily see a few teams taking him after his contract is up with the Rockets, but with the balloon payment?

 

Both are elite defenders, both are elite rebounders both suck at offense.

 

I know the comparison of noah and asik is mostly about putting Noah into perspective.

But, fortunately Melo isn't choosing Asik vs Noah, he's choosing Noah vs Dwight.

On paper if you're comparing what we have for Melo to build on:
- Dwight > Noah
- Harden > Rose (know its apples and oranges, but given Rose's injuries)
- We should win on ability to give him a big contract without giving up as much

So how much weight does McHale < Thibs actually have?

 

It pains me that Rose even factors in. How can anyone think of him as a + at this point?

 

I think there will be multiple teams willing to take Lin for nothing except the right to also take your #1 pick in the process. Lin is a good player but certainly not an 8 million or 15 million a year player, but the extra number 1 along with acquiring him for 1 season with out having to lose any of your own assets could be very tempting.

 

Bro, he looks like his old self playing pick up ball..

cuse you know that's a good gauge for how well he can perform playing in the fastest paced and most athletic basketball league in the world.

 

More than some of us would care to admit.

Coaches set the tone. They hold players accountable and assign minutes as well as make adjustments and call time out plays.

Thibs is highly regarded and just like Doc Rivers or Pops, there are always going to be players who will change teams so that they can work with them just like some Actors will work movies on scale to work with specific directors.

Just look at how many players last year talked about wanting to play for Mark Jackson, and he wasn't even a tier 1 coach.

McHale is a nice selling point if you're trying to recruit a big man looking to improve their skill set. Not so good if you want a player who cares mostly about winning.

 

We'll see if Thibs has that kind of sway. He's been in Chicago and no one has been beating down the door to get there.

Rivers had that kind of attraction as a respected former black player, not because of his success. (he had no success prior to Big 3 Boston) Heck, Rivers got the job with the Clippers because Paul demanded a black coach lol.

 

Doc Rivers' Win/Loss record as a head coach prior to the big 3 in Boston was 273 / 312 (includes ORL and BOS).

 

Players "love" him but why not the Bulls front office?

Thibodeau often mentioned as a selling point(and obviously for good reason) but what if he and Bulls front office keep clashing? We keep hearing about it each season(though obviously he keeps returning the next).