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Rockets Declining Parsons Contract?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mikol13, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. downbytheriver

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    roflll. it's called filling a part in mchale's little system that inflates stats. tailor made for pointless regular season accolades. honestly if teams want to give him $8 million that's fine, but please don't make him something he's not (half court player who's quick enough to score off screens consistently like a korver or kapono). and we need to focus on DEFENSE, especially at the 1 and 3 spots. Notice something teams like Spurs, OKC, Miami, Indiana (though dreadful everywhere else) have???

    please think title in mind :grin:
     
  2. Aleron

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    If DocRocket was 60 Minutes, cyberx is TMZ. It's not that he's making **** up, but a lot of it is background noise. Just look at the whole Dwight Howard thing, it was a lot of things that may have been wanted to be heard, whereas Doc was pretty much adamant it was as good as done.
     
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  3. fluors

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    Zach Lowe (Grantland) published a very detailed and in depth analysis of Carmelo Anthony at Power Forward, with the help of Stats LLC, Synergy Sports, and nba.com player lineup databases. He discussed the advantages and disadvantages of Melo at PF for the Knicks in 2012: (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/can-carmelo-anthony-really-play-power-forward-and-should-he/). It’s a very good write up and if Melo becomes a Rocket his article should prove too be a good predictor of what will happen here. I listed a few of the most important points below:

    1. Melo does not want to play Power Forward because he thinks the punishment and banging will shorten his nba career.
    2. He was forced into it when Stat reinjured his knee. The results were surprisingly very good.
    3. The Chandler/Melo/three guard lineups averaged 110.6 points per 100 possessions; a +12 pt increase compared to the previous Chandler/Stoudemire/Melo/two guard lineup that averaged just 98.6 points per 100 possessions.
    4. The Chandler/Melo/three guard lineup also held opponents to just 104.6 points per 100 possessions. That’s two points higher than the Chandler/Stat/Melo lineup but the pts scored/pts allowed differential increased from -2 to +6. That +6 differential was top six in the league in 2012.
    5. The move to PF allowed Melo to become one of the best drivers in the league; e.g., opponents had to respect his jump shot so Melo was able to lure bigger and slower defenders out of the paint. Once that was done, he utilized his quickness, speed, and agility to drive past them.
    6. Melo proved to be a decent one-on-one defender in the post against opposing PFs and held his opponents to just 29% shooting.
    7. Melo proved as much a liability at PF in PnR situations as he did at SF and called for switches in almost every PnR situation. This constant switching tended to leave teammates in mismatches and generated confusion about defensive schemes and assignments. (Sound familiar?)
    8. Melo’s ability to play PF and SF effectively is valuable to the Knicks because it allows them to play big and small lineups, and, gives the team more versatility and flexibility to exploit and/or adjust to opposing teams.

    Utilizing the best available metrics and personal conversation with Melo, Zach concludes that Melo is effective at SF and PF, and, plays both positions effectively. But you have to wonder: If Melo doesn’t like playing PF, wouldn’t his first choice be a team that allows him to play his natural SF position?
     
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  4. cheke64

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    Good move Morey. First I hate you then I want to love you. Parsons is not the answer and is overrated.
     
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    Batum makes 12. Parson is a better player than batum or at least equal to. I'm not saying he will get 12,but based on his age and production,he wll command 10 ish. Parsons is a 3rd guy on a championship team. He may not be a superstar,but neither were manu or parker when they were 25. Parsons is the 5 or 6th best player at his position.
     
  6. Aleron

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    I'm starting to feel like the real mastermind is in Philly
     
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    If we had Melo at the 4 we can defeat the Thunder in the playoffs. Playing Small ball is Thunder biggest weakness. Melo at the 4 luring Ibaka outside the paint and let howard do the work inside.
     
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    S&T Parsons along with Asik/Lin for Melo? Is that possible? Bev/Harden/Melo/Jones/Dwight looks pretty damn dreamy.
     
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    Oh ok, read the thread, its not :p
     
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    This doesn't make sense to me. Melo would obviously play the 4.
     
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    I hate how people compare a hideous contract to current stock. HOF Tim Duncan makes 11 mill a year and Parsons wants to make 12 million. See what I did
     
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    He's getting 10 a year. But he's not near the player Batum is.
     
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    Bwahaha at the 60 min/TmZ comparison! So funny! :grin:
    I wish I got to read Doc's post before though, I wasnt a member yet when he was frequenting here. I'm very curious about his input during this Whole Parsons debacle. Wonder what he has to say about it. :p
     
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    :grin: mixed feelings? Yeah I get what you mean by this LOL. Hopefully Morey and Les' posturing wields us a player.

    I would seriously be pissed if we don't even land one of these big agents, if not Lebron then at least someone better than what we have right now. :eek:
     
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    Lebron? Lol. You tripping
     
  17. The Cat

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    I feel like a lot of you don't understand just how tight the restricted FA market is. If Parsons does get a "crazy offer", it's not going to come quickly. No one's going to tie up their cap for 2 weeks (10-day moratorium, then the 72-hour clock to match, which may not start immediately) on a player who the Rockets are highly likely to match. Teams with cap space are going to prioritize other, more realistic options first. Because if you go after Parsons in early July and fail (and that's the strong likelihood), the vast majority of the market would be gone by the time you get your money back. Teams aren't going to risk that.

    Now, by mid-to-late July, you might have a team that struck out on all the big names THEN go crazy for Parsons. But that's going to give the Rockets time to go down their entire trade/FA list, and the only way it could get dicey is if the Rockets miss on all of them. Otherwise, if the Rockets get their third star, there's no reason not to match on anything. Carl Herrera is spot on: some of you need to stop worrying about Les Alexander's bank account, because that's the only consideration. :) The team is going to be capped out regardless, with or without Parsons, so there's no on-court benefit to letting him walk if he gets a big offer.
     
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  18. Pull_Up_3

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    Bev
    Harden
    Parsons
    Dirk
    Howard

    morey plz
     
  19. tmacfor35

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    A bad team could very well offer him almost max.
     
  20. Dubious

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    So, making CP a RFA and making it clear to the league you will match, even into the Luxury Tax is the actually best strategy to control your options; daring teams to risk losing out on all other FA's with the requirements of the cap hold, knowing The Rockets will resign him anyway and you get nothing.

    good jerb mury
    thanks Cat
     
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