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Dragic or Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, May 17, 2014.

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Who is better

  1. Dragic

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  2. Harden

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    76.9%
  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    Would you rather have a guy who is responsible for a 55 win season and a first round loss - or for this?


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  2. DragonBlade

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    Well to be fair, he also accomplished this...

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Since 1993 only this 4 guys in the picture were able to do it. Just, I don't care the other 3, only <a href="https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic">@Goran_Dragic</a> <a href="http://t.co/wBsAGsz7U3">pic.twitter.com/wBsAGsz7U3</a></p>&mdash; Quique Villalobos (@quiquevich) <a href="https://twitter.com/quiquevich/statuses/458676262534279168">April 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    On top of leading his team to 48 wins almost single handedly he was able to achieve something only 3 other players have done in the past 20 years. All got awarded MVP honors in their respective seasons. I'd say that deserves a legitimate debate about who's better right now, Harden or Dragic.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    So you're telling me instead of Harden, Howard, we could have had Dragic + 48 wins + 9th seed?

    Sign me up!
    MVP voters? They had that debate, Harden won 85-3.
     
    #83 SamFisher, May 21, 2014
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    So one bad series out weighs a body of work over the last two years? He needs to grow up a bit, play much better D. But one bad series doesn't diminish what he's done since we traded for him. Or even what he did in OKC.
     
  5. DragonBlade

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    Harden and Howard got you 54 wins, maybe Dragic and Howard could have gotten you a few more. On the other hand, take Dragic out of this years Suns and replace him with Harden. I'm pretty doubtful he could do with these Suns what Dragic did and take them to 48 wins.

    I forget,... what was the Rockets record last year without Howard?
     
  6. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Based on what? '12 Dragic didn't have Asik.

    LOL... he makes it so easy, unfortunately.

    Fair post. Nothing is guaranteed when making predictions, but I'd much rather take my chances with Dragic than Haren. I highly doubt Goran's offense would've been worse (although possible). And when you lose by 1 and 2 points, replacing 40 minutes of crap defense with 40 of very good, suggests a different outcome.

    Does Dwight get any credit for those 55 wins?

    Of course not, it wouldn't help your argument. LOL

    Harden was subpar last year too.
     
  7. ChumpCity

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    I miss the good old days when the GARM was not sofa king we todd it.
     
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    I'm sorry could you just clarify for me if you are a Lin fan or that Sun's fan that rolls in here every so often.
     
  9. DragonBlade

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    ...the latter.
     
  10. GoRox2013

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    No sir. Dragic doesn't see whole defenses geared toward shutting him down. Teams don't say "if we just stop Dragic, we can win!!". Ain't no triple & double teams for Dragic. Harden's a very good allstar tryna reach superstar status. Dragic's a very good role player tryna become a allstar. Apples & Oranges
     
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    The Rockets record without Howard last year was good enough to qualify them for the playoffs, unlike the Dragic led Suns this year.
     
  12. Houstunna

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    During a player vs player debate, a Harden fan jumps in and only talks offense.
    Anyone else shocked?

    1) Dragic got double-teamed
    2) He should've been an All-Srtar

    Biased post is biased
     
  13. gregas

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    Haha, did you watched any of the suns games. Defenses were constantly geared against Dragic, sometimes that was the primary game-plan. It's not a secret either, multiple coaches expressed the sentiment, that to stop the suns you need to stop dragic, during game interviews.
     
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    JLfan#1 is to Lin as DragonBlade is to.....

    Look Dragic is a good player. But he isn't in the same class as Harden DESPITE ALL HIS FLAWS. You call up PHX tommorrow asking to trade Harden for Dragic?

    Any GM that wouldn't do that in a heartbeat is off his rocker
     
  15. GoRox2013

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    Bro, stop it. The best player on Phoenix last year was Bledsoe and even
     
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  18. SamFisher

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    Equation? Let's talk equations. I'm going to make it very simple for you:

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    N E WAY, maybe you're right...I'm busy evaluating Harden's record as a starter in the playoffs against Dragic's.

    I've attached Gogi's record below:
     
    #98 SamFisher, May 21, 2014
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  19. SamFisher

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    Does Dwight show up if the Rockets are rolling out Gogi and the 9th seed in 2013?
     
  20. treyk3

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    Absolutely not. This is my least favorite Carl obsession yet and so many people are buying into his bait.

    Harden is one of the top 5 players in the world. He isn't even 25. He will work on his defense, he will work on his focus. He will learn what it takes to win. Michael Jordan was 28 before he won his first championship, Lebron was 27 , let's not give up on Harden quite yet.
     

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