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[Official] Texans Draft Day Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, May 7, 2014.

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  1. JohnQ

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    Irish Chocolate! :grin:
     
  2. rezdawg

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    Johnny isnt the "QB I love"...and Ive never said that he "is all that".

    Clowney was my choice for 1-1. I voted that in every poll that I remember.

    And Clowney was most definitely the safe pick of the draft. Nobody would fault the Texans if Clowney ends up a bust in a few years. No one will look back and place blame on Rick Smith for making Clowney the selection at #1. However, if the Texans took Manziel at #1, then they would be crucified if the pick didnt pan out.

    Once you get to the 20s, and a player as dynamic as Manziel is still on the board, I think you have to try to go for the home run. It's not like we'd be mortgaging the future to trade up 10 picks...we'd be out a 3rd round or so. Big deal...but, at least we get a guy that could be a homerun, even if the odds are at 30%.

    At some point, the team needs to go away from playing everything safe. Reach a little, go out on a limb, make decisions that 25+ other teams wouldnt do in the NFL...that's the only way to strike gold and reap the rewards. Making decisions that are safe, predictable, and in accordance to what the majority of teams in the NFL would do...that equals mediocrity to me.

    It's just like any business out there...if you dont take risks, if you dont sometimes swing for the fences, you're just an average company. However, if you do make some risky decisions, then you become the Apple and Google that teams strive to be.

    Again, there is zero guarantee that Manziel will be a productive NFL QB...however, anyone that denies that he has a potentially high ceiling hasnt followed football long enough. He is no more likely to fail than Bortles, Bridgewater, and all the other QBs in the draft. But, if he does succeed, I think he can easily have more of an impact than a player like Bortles. When the QB position is king, you need to go for it. Texans chose to re-up Carr instead of chase Brees. Texans chose to stick with Schaub instead of chase Manning. And it looks like the Texans will be choosing Mallett over a chance at Manziel. Same song, same story, probably the same results. We'll see.
     
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    No QB is there guy,, Fitzpatrick and crappy Ryan Mallet (that has threw 8 passes in the last 3 years for -8 net yards) LOL is there guy
     
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  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Way to make yourself look biased and uninformed. He like I had the same approach to the draft which was Drafting Clowney was the safest way to go but if they decided to take a risk then Manziel was the one with the most upside. Manziel out of all the QBs in the draft actually worked harder after their season coming into the draft.
     
  6. htown1984

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    thanks for the lecture LOL
     
  7. solodolo

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    I really want Louis nix.
     
  8. steddinotayto

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    Past mistakes were made by personnel that aren't here any more other than Rick Smith who, by all accounts from what we've read over the years, isn't the de facto decision maker. I'll give O'Brien the benefit of the doubt before I put him in the same basket as the Capers era and the Kubiak Era.
     
  9. Icehouse

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    Yes, and tons of others said drafting Clowney was risky because of the things I noted. Drafting Clowney was not the safest way to go. We are having him play a completely new role. The Texans ignored need and fit and swung for the fences by taking the highest rated athlete. The safe thing to do would have been to trade back and cover your true needs. This isn't the year to bash them for not trying to hit a home run.
     
  10. rezdawg

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    Bob McNair has been here all along...he's been just as much of the problem. McNair is the one that wanted Carr here longer than he should have been...he's the reason Kubiak had as long of a tenure as he had...he's the reason Smith has a GM position after a 2-14 season. None of this would have happened on any other team.

    Granted, Im definitely on board with giving O'Brien a fair shake...but there are figureheads in the organization that have shown incompetence, which will make things that much harder for O'Brien. However, we do know that O'Brien is guaranteed at least 5 years as HC, so he'll definitely have more than enough time to prove himself. And if I had to guess, I think he will do fairly well. I like him.
     
  11. Rudyball

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    I want an ILB but there is not one rated close to BPA in the low 2nd round so either DT or CB. There are some ILB's (Shayne Skov) and OL tackles we can get in the 3rd.
     
  12. rezdawg

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    Every single person in the media had us taking Clowney if we stayed at #1. This wasnt a shocking decision the Texans made. This was a no brainer and the move that made the most sense.

    Trading down would have been nice, but was definitely not the "safe" route, specially since we'd be giving up Clowney in the hopes that another top prospect dropped to us. In fact, looking back, that would have been incredibly dumb to trade down, since Mack, Watkins, and Bortles (who the Texans apparently loved) were all off the board by #6.
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Ditto. Finally a real Nose that can collapse a pocket. With Clowney and Watt I think they could end careers.
     
  15. jev5555

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    Bravo.

    Now if only we could get people to stop saying "we loose the game tonight cause Jeremy Lin sucks"
     
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    I bolded the important part, which is also not the "safe" part, since taking him is not addressing a need and swinging for a home run. Last comment on it. We can agree to disagree.
     
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    I kind of want it to be Carr just cause it would be funny
     
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    Man, rechecking the draft, Minny.. wow, great draft for them.

    Barr & Bridgewater. Such a steal.
     
  19. JeffB

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    A lot of potential right there. I like Barr and hope he develops as he actually learns to play the position. Taking Bridgewater where they did was a good move. Their GM said it was to lock in the 5th year option on the contract. Will be interesting to seen TB physically develop. And what a good situation to get started on a team with Adrian Peterson at RB.
     
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