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Jeremy Lin's critical turnover in Game 4

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TesseracT, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. sirbaihu

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    True: you can see all the other Rockets standing waiting for a time out, especially Parsons, who is flatfooted by the bench, and they all get a big surprise when Lin spins out like a windup toy for no conceivable reason and turns the ball/season over to Portland.

    "But he went to Harvard. . . ."
     
  2. Omnipotence

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    What a dumb ass.
     
  3. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Remember Scottie Pippen when he mailed in games...? Harden and Tracy had more heart and selflessness.... Have some historic perspective people....
     
  4. guanwangzhe

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    Agreed. Lin get twice rebound on that play. Why anybody else could not get the rebound? If he did not play hard made effort to get those rebounds, then he would never get all the blaming.
     
  5. TheLastPope

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    your 100%sure we win the game if Lin doesn't turn the ball over

    You do know he helped us win game 3 right

    What if bev doesn't turn the ball over and passed it to daniels, then maybe we tie the game in OT

    What if harden doesn't get his shot blocked the next play

    So I'm a lof because I hold everyone accountable for game 1,2 and fours lost

    I could blame harden for a bad shot in OT in Game 1,no the team lost

    I could blame harden for shooting 29% in game 2, no the team lost

    I could blame Parsons no showing in the 4th Quarter of every game , no the team lost

    I could blame bev for getting abused by Lillard for 4 games, no the team lost

    I could blame Lin for no showing in 2 games, no the team lost

    If bev, Harden, Parsons and howard had that TO, I wouldn't blame them, why?, there was still 5 min. And 43 sec to try and win the game
     
  6. Midrangej

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    I have to say Lin does this....

    He does have low b ball iq.....

    there was a regular season game when he didn't use the clock or call Time out, instead electing to go for a layup which he then missed....

    I just think he wanted to get fouled so he can shoot some free throws to ice the game....
     
  7. SuperBeeKay

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    the reason that game 3 even went to that 3 point shot was because he turned it over shooting a basic lay up. If he holds on to it, we either go up 2 or 3 more or stay 2 up with a 2 for 1 situation.

    So sit the **** down
     
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  8. Zboy

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    Does it show him turning it over?
     
  9. Zboy

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    He is spewing the same garbage over and over again.

    Someone change his moniker to TheLastDope
     
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  10. KlutchQT

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    Dude, he blew it. He isn't the first player to blow a basketball game and he won't be the last. But what happened happened, and none of these extrapolations and incongruous analogies change that.
     
  11. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Are you seriously trying to talk about Game 3? Did your Lin bias also make you conveniently forget that it was ALSO LIN'S FAULT that we went into overtime in Game 3 as well? We were up and Lin gets this incredibly dumb idea to try and act like a hero and break the other way with his teammates looking on dumbfounded, just like in Game 4. In Game 2, he also had that really ****ing dumb and costly found on Lillard.

    While it is impossible to say there was absolutely no chance we would have still lost by some fluke of God provided Lin didn't make his completely dumbass mistake, it was pretty much a guaranteed win if he called a timeout or forced someone to foul him and make it a 2 possession game. Also, not a single mistake by any other player cost us a almost guaranteed win like Lin did. Because of Lin, we went into OT and subsequently lost. Others may have made dumb mistakes as well, but no one has ****ed us as often and badly as Lin has so far.
     
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  12. TheJet

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    My friend, while a part of me admires your conviction, you have to realize that the more you defend Lin and try to deflect the criticism of his mistake the worse it's going to get. No one here is saying Parsons, Beverley or Harden have been playing great. This thread is about Lin's mistake, which in all likely hood cost us a game. No, it's not 100% certain that we would have won but there's very good chance. I'm sure one of the stat heads can pull up something for teams with a two point lead with 35 seconds left and the ball.

    There are good posters here that are admitted Lin fans, and we've seen them admit that the last play was a very costly mistake. Admitting when you're wrong about something goes a long way for people taking you seriously here.
     
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  13. solid

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    Haven't been around long, aye? The Rockets have had their share of "underperforming" players. One of two things: either Lin is not very good (Linsanity was perfect storm that never happens again) or the Rockets are not a very good fit for him. Or, three, he has nagging physical issues that are limiting his game.
     
  14. MrButtocks

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    The turnover itself wasn't a mistake. He didn't throw it away, he didn't miss a wide open layup (again), he didn't shoot it with time on the clock when he should have run it down. He got stripped from behind on a good defensive play. I'll give credit to Mo for the hustle on that one. In isolation, that play honestly wasn't that terrible on his part. Within the context of his play this whole series, however, it really is unforgiveable.

    Is it too much to ask him to not suck this badly? He's shooting 16% from downtown. He's getting torched on defense. Every time he goes to the rack you know he's not going strong. If we can put faith in Daniels' shooting, why not Canaan? Can he really be that far behind Lin in impact? Anyone thinking Lin will redeem himself this series is a fool, including McHale. I don't know what he was doing on the floor in the crunch to begin with.
     
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  15. TheLastPope

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    UOTE=KlutchQT;8910115]There were 40 seconds left in regulation. While there were other mistakes made throughout the game, that turnover was the proximate cause of the game going to overtime. Surely you can understand why people who are fans of this team and were hoping against hope that they'd come home with the series tied are reacting negatively to that. Some going overboard as usual? Sure. But your affinity for Lin aside, I know you have to see why the mistake that was the one that directly pushed the game to OT is magnified beyond mistakes that were made earlier in the game -- likely exacerbated by the fact that McHale had given clear instructions on the play that went disregarded. Maybe not "fair," but surely you can understand the difference.

    Add this to the fact that he committed the inexplicable foul on Lillard in Game 2 and sent us to OT in Game 3, and well....[/QUOTE]

    Right Game 2 had nothing to do with harden shooting 29% or Parsons shooting 3-15

    Nope Lin cost us Game 2 by himself

    Lin misses a layup in game 3,but harden shouldn't play D on batum or **** up 2 offensive possessions after that

    if Lin doesn't play in game 5 and we lose the whole series is on him right

    The truth

    Bev has been a huge disappoint Defensively

    Harden has been a huge disappoint offensively and defensively

    Parsons while is shooting good in the first half has been a huge disappoint in the second half Of eve every game and defensively

    T Jones a huge disappoint on defense

    And Lin has been a huge disappoint offensively, getting out played by MO Williams of all people, disgusting
     
  16. KlutchQT

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    Please go look up the word "proximate" and tell me if that aids your comprehension.
     
  17. Breaker

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    Someone said it best on sports 790

    We had Chandler Parsons finally show up, James Harden playing better down the stretch, Dwight playing clutch D, and Troy still being on fire behind the ark

    and it was all wasted because Jeremy Lin.
     
  18. SuperBeeKay

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    Right Game 2 had nothing to do with harden shooting 29% or Parsons shooting 3-15

    Nope Lin cost us Game 2 by himself

    Lin misses a layup in game 3,but harden shouldn't play D on batum or **** up 2 offensive possessions after that

    if Lin doesn't play in game 5 and we lose the whole series is on him right

    The truth

    Bev has been a huge disappoint Defensively

    Harden has been a huge disappoint offensively and defensively

    Parsons while is shooting good in the first half has been a huge disappoint in the second half Of eve every game and defensively

    T Jones a huge disappoint on defense

    And Lin has been a huge disappoint offensively, getting out played by MO Williams of all people, disgusting[/QUOTE]
    r u ok?
     
  19. SuperBeeKay

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    derek fisher was a rocket for a few hours so theres that
     
  20. dream_team

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    What makes you so sure we don't go to OT if that turnover doesn't occur? Or even lose in regulation? Lin got the rebound at 33 seconds with a 2 point lead. That's not quite "ballgame" right there. Rox still have to score on the next possession or hold the Blazers from scoring.

    It was a good defensive play on Mo, why not leave it at that? If Lin dribbled it off his foot, that's one thing, but he didn't. He got caught from behind. And if you played basketball before, you know that your teammates are supposed to help out by notifying someone is coming from behind. Believe it or not, it's hard to tell someone is behind you. That's like blaming Harden for the loss, because he got his layup blocked with 9 seconds left.
     

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