This team is staring at the Abyss for the next 3-5 years

Oh, and news flash... if Melo comes to Houston its because he wants to win a championship... so don't expect the rest of the team to just fall over...

 

That Bulls comparison is so off. MJ was already a NCAA Champion and Olympic Gold Medalist before even playing in the NBA. His Bulls teams were fighting their guts out against the Celtics and Pistons before finally breaking through.

 

If you have watched this team the past 2 years and haven't seen the bright spots in Hardens game then you are purposefully trying NOT to see them.

And no one is refuting your point because you have yet to make one. It's just your opinion based on some limited, flimsy and what seem like fairly biased observations.

 

1. No comment

2. Harden and Howard have both shown great ability this year.

3. Agreed. But this year was never going to be the Rockets "year" to win it all. This window doesn't close for 3 years or so.

4. Michael Jordan was called "un-coachable" by the media before he won a championship. Phil Jackson himself called Kobe Bryant "un-coachable" and Kobe won 5 championships.

5. Yeah, shooting is a pretty big part of basketball. In fact, the entire goal of an offense is to get open shots. Harden shoots the ball... it's not surprising considering he's playing basketball. You forget Harden also is very good at driving in the lane and scoring or going to the free throw line.

 

I would like to counter your predictions with a prediction based on the history of Morey...



we will not be in the abyss, simply because we will get a third star and continue to get better from there. In fact, I would dare say that we have a top 3 team by 2016 and win a championship with that same squad.

 

You are acting like the Blazers are the Milwaukee Bucks. The Blazers are a very very good team.

That's why all of these playoff series are competitive in the West... because all of the teams are so evenly matched.

Although the Rockets have lost 2, the games have been very tight.

In the ultra-competitive West, the Rockets getting better players in the off season could put them in true title contention.

This year was about getting Dwight. Everything went into that. So the rest of the roster was an afterthought. This off-season will be about getting the rest of the pieces. Building a real team around Dwight and Harden.

 

If Harden shoots lights out, Rockets will win. I am 100% confident because I am a Rockets fan.

 

I didn't compare Harden to MJ and Kobe as players.

I'm simply saying some of the greatest players of all-time were called "un-coachable" before. Didn't mean much.

 

You keep missing the point. No. One. Thinks. James. Is. Even. In. The. Same. World. As. MJ.

The only reason we keep bringing up the GOAT is because even HE had a hard time breaking through. So why give up on Harden and this Rockets team so quickly?

If you were a Bulls fan in '85, would you be spouting this same "abyss" mantra? I bet you would. Lots of media people did. "He shoots too much", "He has no jump shot", "he doesn't play defense", "A scoring leader ball hog can't win a title". Remember that? Short sighted. Anyone who is predicting doom and gloom for 3-5 years is not the type of "fan" I'd like to be near.

Sorry, I'm not writing off this team for years based on a few games where Harden hasn't shown up. No matter what your feelings tell you.

 

Sorry. I apologize. I should have read this post a little closer.

If you really believe the things that you wrote about Harden and you feel he's just a streaker scorer (shooter) with nothing else to bring to the table, and his great games don't mean that much then there's no sense trying to debate this with you. No offense, but you're just not giving credit where it's due.

 

Go away, loser, troll.

 

Abyss: a deep, immeasurable space, gulf, or cavity; vast chasm.

The Rockets, even if we failed to advance into the second round of the Playoffs, will not be in the abyss for the next 3-5 years. That's the LA Lakers.

 

Don't be stupid. This is a talented team, they just have no bench and a crappy coach. Those are two things that are much, much, much easier to fix than lack of starpower or even lack of Beverley/Parsons level elite glue guys.

We didn't expect to win a title this year. Things are going worse than we thought, but even if we get swept you can't just say that means no one involved can ever be part of a winning team. You fix the obvious defects (McHale and the bench depth). You try again. More problems probably come up unless you have 2012 Heat levels of talent. If they do, you fix them. Eventually, you hope to have addressed enough problems before your stars age, break down or leave that you win a title.

I don't accept the premise that it is impossible to win a title with Harden as your leader - it's all a matter of what team you surround him with. For reference, compare the Mavs circa 2008 (roughly the height of the "Dirk is to soft to lead a title team" fad) with the 2012 Mavs. Dirk's strengths and weaknesses didn't change beyond a typical amount of veteran experience and player growth. But with the addition of Carlisle, Chandler, Kidd, etc, weaknesses in the team were patched and the team iterated until they found a working combination. That is the nature of building a team and it can't be circumvented by just saying "X will never win because he's Y".

 

As long as our two stars stay healthy over the next 3-5 years, we will be contenders.

Unless we fail to make upgrades to our bench (unlikely) and we fail to get at least a slightly better coach (somewhat more likely, but losing in the first round makes this likely).

 

Was a quarter way through read opening posted then glanced up to see join date...immediately stopped reading.

Got to 'try's to do it with beard & style...'

Smh.

 

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