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George Springer

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Aug 16, 2013.

  1. juicystream

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    Springer should be up.

    Singleton should stay in AAA.

    The big difference being Singleton struggled badly last season, and 10 games into this season isn't enough to go on.
     
  2. No Worries

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    IIRC Brett Wallace put up good OPS numbers at OKC. Using your logic ...
     
  3. CometsWin

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    What does that matter? If Singleton struggles we send him back down.

    So we can't call anyone up anymore because there are players who played well in AAA that stunk it up in the majors? At some point a prospect has to get a shot.
     
  4. boozle222

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    FWIW, Wally is in AAA for Baltimore and has yet to log an RBI in 11 games while posting a .537 OPS... yikes.
     
  5. Nick

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    And that time will most likely be late June/early July... unless there's an injury.

    I guess you could infer by Luhnow's comments that a "month" is all they're keeping Springer down for (in order to ensure the extra FA year), but he also inferred throughout last season that he "could" get his chance after the super-2 deadline, along with possibly in September, and it never happened (then again, he could have been referring to the contract extension).
     
  6. Jared Novak

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    It's laughable to me that so much emphasis has been out on the Astros not bringing up Springer. As good as he is, he still has holes in his swing. If the Astros want to keep him Dow. For arbitration purposes, so what? The Astros get criticized for it because they had the balls to do what no one else would --- burn it down to the ground and rebuild from scratch. Winning cures all, it'll be fine, the next wave will get here soon.
     
  7. leroy

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    No one is criticizing them for the methods they've used to rebuild. But it's time to see some of the fruits of that labor. When the one that is clearly the most ready to pick has been hanging there since last season, those of us that are the hungriest are getting a little annoyed.
     
  8. The Beard

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    I want to see him here also, but he turned down a big payday or he would be here, the coin has two sides and he chose the one that has him here later rather than earlier
     
  9. HTown_DieHard

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    the Astros low balled the hell out of him...
     
  10. The Beard

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    Maybe, but that depends on your views of what he will become I suppose. He could have been rich for life, and he chose not to. I hope it works out for him, because if it does that means he turned into a legit major league player, and at least border line star. There is no guarantee of that

    Again, I wish he was here, but I do understand how they are handling it
     
  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Can you name another player who was offered a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract before playing one major league game?
     
  12. Major

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    Really? Who's a comparative player that got a better deal? There's almost no player anywhere that gets that type of contract without having played a single inning at the major league level. Gyorko just got $35MM guaranteed - that was the 3rd highest amount ever for a guy with just one year of experience. I have no idea what the highest is for no experience, but I can't imagine it would be much more than what Springer was offered.
     
  13. Nick

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    No... but with all due respect to the process, most other teams would have promoted Springer at some point last year, prior to the attempts to sign him.

    Attempting to sign him to the contract was the Astros way of not losing any additional MLB time (i.e. - these first few weeks or months) since most other teams wouldn't have the 24 year old near 40/40 guy start the season in the minors.
     
  14. The Beard

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    And many others would be treating it just like the Astros are

    If we were not in the middle of the biggest tear down in the history of the sport, this one individual situation wouldn't be such a big deal

    And in actuality, it isn't that big of a deal outside of the 5-10 of us on here who debate about it
     
  15. Nick

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    There's been more national headlines about the Astros dealings with Springer than other recent stashed players (mainly due to his advanced age, the lack of quality players above him, and where the team is). Its also the only topic really followed regularly by the local media regarding this team as well.

    And the worse the current Astros continue to perform, the more the decision gets "exposed" by those willing to expose it.
     
  16. The Beard

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    Ok, I watch ESPN quite a bit and MLB Network a lot and rarely ever hear about it, but maybe i'm just watching at the wrong time, don't watch 24 hrs a day. If they are really on it that much, at least those who whine about the Astros not getting any national media attention should be happy

    I do know that Charlie Palillo rants about it, so you are certainly right there. Other than that, I rarely hear any Astros talk on local radio, Springer related or otherwise
     
  17. Nick

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    Matt Thomas also mentions it... says Luhnow now laughs at him whenever he asks. The rest of the Houston local media are pretty inept to discuss baseball even if this team was good.

    ESPN or MLB don't cover the Astros much because of how insignificant they are... but Eduardo Perez used his stage as a new ESPN announcer (and knowledge as a former astros coach) to say that they really should have promoted Springer sooner (this was during the Blue Jays game).

    Peter Gammons tweets his stat-lines and compares it to the current Astros OF'ers.

    Harold Reynolds is a huge Springer fan.

    I know all teams stash players... but the situation is perceived differently and with a more "criticizing tone" with what the Astros are doing to him by the media.
     
  18. The Beard

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    Cool, that is awesome, did not notice the national uproar about how horrible it is that we have held down Springer.

    That is really a good thing though, because as soon as he is brought up we should be front and center on sportscenter and all the other major sports shows, sweet!

    I do disagree about the local media being inept about Stros talk even when we are good though, go back to the early/mid 2000's and baseball talk was prominent on local sports talk . . .hard to keep that up when 60% of the city can't watch though, regardless of how good/bad the team is
     
  19. Nick

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    That was before the Texans became Houston's "it" team. They've now become a year-round story (as much of the NFL is now).

    610 devotes nearly its entire programming schedule around that team (esp since they're the flagship).

    790 has their major football guy in the morning, followed by a year round football show hosted by two former football players. Matt has talked more about the draft/Manziel stuff than Rockets+Astros combined... and he will do whatever his callers want. Charlie is the only one who directly tries to steer the conversation certain ways, but even he isn't immune to doing what the callers want (and admits that local interest has to be so low because of the TV thing).

    2000's still had Lance Z, but John Granato was a big baseball guy who helped run that show.

    Its going to take a serious amount of successful years for the Astros to come close to what a bad Texans team is getting now.
     
  20. The Beard

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    Actually, the Texans were around when the Astros were in their big run in the early/mid 2000's, and the Astros were a big part of talk radio . . .

    Football is certainly the biggest story in Texas, but if you think that the reason the Astros aren't big on sports radio is because of the Texans, I would have to disagree with you. Maybe you are right, maybe it has nothing to do with no one being able to watch them and the team being terrible, but personally I think this is a very good baseball town if the team is winning.

    And yea, 610 is the flagship so it's gonna be mainly football . . .but if the Stros were winning and people could watch, I think there would be quite a bit of Astros talk on 610 also . . .but I could very well be wrong, maybe it has nothing to do with anything other than everyone loves the Texans so the Stros are history in this town
     

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