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Can Dwight and Bev really mask this team's horrid defense?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ag3ntgandhi, Apr 11, 2014.

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  1. RoxBeliever

    RoxBeliever Member

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    yes, and hold guys accountable. if someone is not defending, then yank them out of the game until they defend, even Harden.

    thing is McHale will whine after the game when he should have done something about it during the game when it still mattered
     
    #101 RoxBeliever, Apr 12, 2014
  2. ag3ntgandhi

    ag3ntgandhi Rookie

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    Yesterday's game didn't do much to alleviate concerns.
     
    #102 ag3ntgandhi, Apr 13, 2014
  3. Liberon

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    Put yourself in their shoes, you're tired and kinda hurt so you probably want to see what this team can do before you put in the effort to defend.
     
    #103 Liberon, Apr 13, 2014
  4. Tom Bombadillo

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    We are just really, really young guys. With our average age around 24, do you really expect defensive consistency? Defensive IQ?

    Come on now.
     
    #104 Tom Bombadillo, Apr 13, 2014
  5. gene18

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    Synergy has Lin and Bev equal in overall defense.
     
    #105 gene18, Apr 13, 2014
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  6. Duncan McDonuts

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    If our team has championship aspirations, then yes. Until then, we're just a playoff fodder.
     
    #106 Duncan McDonuts, Apr 13, 2014
  7. ag3ntgandhi

    ag3ntgandhi Rookie

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    This is not acceptable reasoning at all. So what, we're supposed to just pay these coaches and players millions and millions of dollars until they get to the right age? They're professionals, and they're expected to do a job, especially if this team thinks they are contenders.
     
    #107 ag3ntgandhi, Apr 13, 2014
  8. Kwame

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    Lol, just when I thought your comments couldn't get any dumber you surprise us all.

    "I don't know what to do."
    --Kevin McFail
     
    #108 Kwame, Apr 13, 2014
  9. peleincubus

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    Uhmmm experience is a bit important. And a young average age usually entails up and downs. Yeah it sucks but you can't pretend that what knote32 said is trivial.
     
    #109 peleincubus, Apr 13, 2014
  10. Breitbard

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    Experience is important but there is a difference between being a wily veteran and just being interested in playing defense at all.
     
    #110 Breitbard, Apr 13, 2014
  11. solid

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    We will soon find out. If the Rockets don't "flip a switch" and turn up defensive intensity, and soon, the season will be over before you know it.
     
    #111 solid, Apr 13, 2014
  12. bongman

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    Prior to both of them being injured, in the month of March, the highest points scored on us was 113 against Miaimi and Portland which went to overtime. After that, Other teams averaged 113 pts against us.

    Those numbers show their impact defensively.
     
    #112 bongman, Apr 13, 2014
  13. Solaris

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    The problem is not always with consistency or IQ. Sometimes it has to do with effort. Are you telling me Harden don't have any defensive IQ?
     
    #113 Solaris, Apr 13, 2014
  14. Solaris

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    Lets use simple stats which Clutch have shown us before. The numbers are clear. The difference between Lin and Bev is 2.1 in DefRtg.



    Lineups GP MIN OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg

    Beverley,Patrick - Harden,James - Howard,Dwight - Jones,Terrence - Parsons,Chandler
    34 592 109.9 103.8 6.1 5

    Harden,James - Howard,Dwight - Jones,Terrence - Lin,Jeremy - Parsons,Chandler
    31 325 111.5 105.9 5.6
     
    #114 Solaris, Apr 13, 2014
  15. CantGoLeft

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    Four straight games against playoff teams(including #2 and #3 in the west) plus four additional games against teams ranked #3,2,3, and 4 in pace had a lot to do with it too.
     
    #115 CantGoLeft, Apr 13, 2014
  16. ThisVoice

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    The defense drop off has more to do with Dwight missing than Bev missing. We put Bev on the pedestal but I have yet to see him being a shut down defender.

    In a couple of years maybe, he does have that mentality.
     
    #116 ThisVoice, Apr 14, 2014
  17. Ziggy

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    I thought we sucked on defense last year, but we played OKC fairly well. Picked it up several notches. It was like watching a different team. Maybe we can pull it off again. If we get the Chandler Parsons from last year's OKC series and a healthy Beverley, we've got a real chance.
     
    #117 Ziggy, Apr 14, 2014
  18. mesta

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    Well, we lost to nets and raptors because tjones was sick and dmo was in foul trouble.
    Bev playing also means we don't have to rely on a second round rookie as back up pg
     
    #118 mesta, Apr 14, 2014
  19. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    This is a good point. Is his conditioning still not 100%, or is it mental?
     
    #119 Juxtaposed Jolt, Apr 14, 2014
  20. mesta

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    He sag off his man too early,
     
    #120 mesta, Apr 14, 2014
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