Brandeis University rescinds honorary degree to Ayaan Hirsi Ali for being critical of Islam

Many Muslims want to kill her? lol

You would be amazed at just how many more non-Muslims know about her than Muslims. Most Muslims don't know about or don't care about her. In proportion to the number of Muslims in the world, virtually no Muslims want to hill her.

As for her honorary degree, who cares if she had it or if they took it. She's a nobody. Instead of using her story to help people who had a similarly torrid upbringing and youth, she prefers to put herself in newspaper headlines with purposeful inflammatory sound bites.

A fake hero for the xenophobes. It's a real shame we can not learn more and teach more about her experience, rather than listen to her trying to get famous. There is a real story to tell about this woman's life which relates to many women, Muslim and non-Muslim. Unfortunately it's buried underneath a pile of bull**** like this story.

 

Lol. If you guys think she's not hateful towards Islam you obviously have no clue about the things she's actually said. She has actually said Islam needs to be defeated. Imagine someone who said that about Christianity, Judaism, or even Sikhism and then get an honorary degree.

She is a classic case of someone trying to make a quick buck off her anti Muslim
views. Also, she's a classic case of someone taking things out of context and confusing Arab custom with religion.

 

O no... Not this endless circle again.

1. Person A truthfully claims that the actual text of the Quran, life of the prophet and his hadith promote mysogyny.
2. Muslim apolgists or person B claim that it is not the religion but the culture or race.
3. Person A cites specific text of the Quran and hadith.
4. Person B claims "out of context ".

Funny that technically the Muslim apolgist is the one with the racist view saying it's a race's fault not the ideology that promotes their views.

 

If you believe in the free market then you have to be ok with the market bringing consequences to people.

 

She's a militant atheist and feminist. Yawn. Whenever I see an interview with her she strikes me as overly simplistic in her views.

 

Not sure why it is funny. How many do you need to be sufficiently considered "many". 5? 500? 5000?

Do you doubt that she would be in harms way walking the streets in Saudi Arabia or Iran or Palestine?

Of course most Muslims don't know who she is. That isn't really the issue.

Nobody? Someone sounds biased and angry. Not helping people with a similar upbringing? How do you know this? Maybe she is doing EXACTLY what needs to be done, exposing the complete absurdity of extreme Islam.

A pile of "BS", I don't think she asked for the honorary degree, and certainly did not ask for the invitation to be taken away. She DOES bring attention to her plight living in a repressive culture and society (if you believe her).

I agree with you that she is a hero for "xenophobes" and her story isn't that different than many other Muslim women... which is precisely the point. She gets points for having the guts to stand up and say extreme Islam has ruined many female lives.

Also nice little insertion of "Muslim and non-Muslim" lives....

 

I personally think that she is trying to profit off of her circumstance, but whatever, there is a market for it.

 

Who cares?

 

I would say God Bless and move along aka turn the other cheek

 

Yeah, you. Could you imagine Fox News, the network freaking about about the movie Noah and how it insulted the Bible, doing the same?

 

Do you think the same percentage of Christians, Hindus, Sikhs would want to murder this woman as the percentage of Muslims, if she were to say the same thing about their religion (which, by the way, would not nearly be as justified as in the case of Islam)?

 

Please do tell us about the percentage of Muslims that want to murder this woman? I am sure you will pull that right out of the same darkness you pull all your other rhetoric out of.

 

I don't know, maybe you want to ask Theo van Gogh, who worked with Ayaan Hirsi Ali before he was murdered by this guy:



Mohammed Bouyeri, a Dutch-Moroccan Muslim.

But apparently Muslims don't do these kinds of things, right?

 

You can't have universities like Brandeis promoting a person like this so good thing they rescinded this offer for a "honorary" degree. She should in no way be recognized for having a degree in anything Islam-related. She has no scholarly or academic knowledge on Islam. Some of the issues she raises are valid in the Islamic world and shouldn't go unnoticed but no way is she deserving of some sort of degree when she promotes hate speech against an entire religion she has no academic background on.

 

She doesn't promote hate speech. And she has first-hand experience on what Islam does to women.

 

I think the problem with Ali is that when she attacks Islam she attacks a billion people. It's far too big of a stereotype to generalize a billion people as being these fascists that need to be defeated. She should be attacking the behavior and those Muslims who are propagating violence. But her rhetoric goes beyond what's necessary for her to do that. she's intentionally inciteful.

I can see a University reconsidering honoring her because of that. That's a legitimate reservation not to want to associate yourself for someone who is extremely divisive.

It's one thing to critique Islam and even come down harshly on practices, but it's another to put down the entire religion.

 

Nope.

Attacking the ideology doesn't mean attacking the people who are in one way or another associated with the ideology, often just because they were born into it and indoctrinated with it.

Then again, this has been explained to you countless times and you still don't seem to get it.

 

All Muslims are perfect. Once they commit terrorism, rape, beheading, or just murder; they are not true Muslims.

Catholics should really look into this type of accountability deflection. It is a perfect system.

 

Yup. I have no problem with someone criticizing something, especially religion which I criticize all the time, but she goes out of her way to be hateful. Stances like Islam should be eradicated, is a death cult , etc are pretty fascist in their own regard ironically. Some of the other posters in this thread should do some more deep digging, what she says is the definition of hate speech . "The only good Muslim--is a non-muslim" according to her.

 

"Out of her way"?

She has been getting death threats because she was critical.

Here is the Wikipedia excerpt about her stance on Islam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali#Islam

She is basically saying that Islam needs a radical reform, and that the truth is that it's not just a tiny fringe element, but that the root of the problem is in Islam itself. That's not hateful. That's the truth, and nothing but the truth.

Getting threatened with death because one criticizes a death cult ideology - now that is hateful.