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So you think Steve should take Cat's shots

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by StupidMoniker, May 24, 2003.

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  1. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I see this idea posted a lot. Cat takes too many shots and Steve should take more. I don't get it. They have nearly identical 3pt percentages, but Cat shoots 2 point shots significantly better (47% compared to 45%). If anything, it seems that Cat should be shooting more and Steve less. I don't know where this idea came from that Steve is a better scorer than Cat. In the one season where Cat was made the number one option (out of necessity btw, nobody gave him that role willingly) he scored more than Steve ever has. There are things that Steve does better than Cat. He is a better rebounder (which doesn't necessarily help the team, IMO) and a much better passer. There are also things that Cat does better (shooting and defense come to mind). Steve needs to focus on being a playmaker and playing some defense, or he needs to be moved for someone who will. For 80 million dollars, I expect more out of a player, especially one called "the Franchise".
     
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    I think the most common plea is give Cat's shots to Yao, actually.
     
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    How many shots did Mobley take this year, like 16 right? The previous year it was 20, wasn't it?
     
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    Mobley should be traded! :D ;)
     
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    why dont we give cats shots to cato? he is obviously a better scorer considering his over .500 fg%
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Cato can't create his own shot. Cat scores the same ways that Steve does. We should certainly get as many point-blank dunk opportunities for Cato as possible, but I am pretty sure they do that already.
     
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    Cat is a off guard, making it easier for him to score than Francis. That is why alot of people want to move Francis to the off guard. It is hard to score as a PG.
     
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    More times than not, Steve is shooting over players his height while Mobley shoots over guys 3-4 inches taller. Please tell me which one is harder to do? If you move Steve to the 2, he'll have the same problem as Steve does despite his jumping ability. Its the main reason why Iverson's fg% has went down so much since moving to 2 guard. The idea of constantly shooting over guys 6'6-6'8 will take a toll on your fg %.I'm one of the ones who think they shoot enough.
     
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    did you know francis avergeged ONLY 15 shots a game. He should take 20+ shots.
     
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    Iverson doesn't shoot OVER anyone really. He rarely rarely rarely takes shots OVER anyone, unless they're his own height. Case in point, most teams defend Iverson with their PG, same as they will do with Steve.

    I think that scoring more than Mobley with a slightly inferior FG% (if that's true) while also being the PG is a testament to Steve's ability.

    Steve is a better scorer. In fact, I think Cat's FG% is better than Kobe's, but I doubt that's what makes a good player.

    Within Rudy's FORMER ISO system, Cat is the better scorer. But when including big men in the sets, and using a real system (Larry Brown system, Iverson and Reggie Miller game), Steve Francis is WAY better than Cat. Also, getting rebounds becomes MORE of an advanatage if there's still a PG to run the break (this is if we move Steve to the 2).
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Sane and '85,

    What are you guys talking about? They score the exact same ways. They both dribble penetrate for lay-ups and pull up jumpers. They both shoot of passes from the post. Basically every kind of shot either of them takes, they both take. In no way is it easier for one of them to score based on any system than the other. As for position being considered, it is rediculous to think that it is easier to score from the sg than the point. There are way more good defenders, not to mention bigger and better athletes, at the 2 than the 1.

    His scoring more is not a testament to his ability, but rather to the number of times he shoots. He scores more because he makes himself the number one option, being the pg makes this very easy because all he has to do is keep the ball.

    Finally, rebounding is not the job or the priority of the guards. Not only the pg needs to run out on the break. The front line should be securing rebounds and the backcourt should be running up the floor.

    007,

    Refuting that statement is pretty much the whole point of the thread. Thanks for paying attention.
     

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