1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Do you think Obamacare is a Ponzi Scheme?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bmd, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. Rashmon

    Rashmon Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2000
    Messages:
    21,352
    Likes Received:
    18,370
    Worth repeating...

    Social Security is a pay-as-you-go money-in money-out system.

    Obamacare is nothing close to a Ponzi, nor pay-as-you-go.
     
  2. Liberon

    Liberon Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    8,838
    Likes Received:
    842
    It's basically Obama's own personal plan to become a billionaire by the time he's done with office. Obama is making medical whether it be pharmaceutical, insurance, and practitioners trillions. The people that put Obama in office are well known Republicans due to their financial status: Top 0.000001% The elite billionaires. Think about it, there's very little funding into preventative health care because that's not what brings in the $$$$$.
     
  3. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,946
    Likes Received:
    39,969
    100% false. The major insurance companies have gone through entire restructures to focus more on wellness and preventive care, going so far as to (unofficially) let people go that were overweight to protect that brand.
     
  4. HamJam

    HamJam Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    560
    What about Jesus? Is he a Ponzi Scheme? What about capitalistic-liberalism? Ponzitastic?

    Seriously though bmd -- you're not a bad poster, you are capable of good dialogue, but, when you start a thread, you gotta put a little more into it than a title. It really helps if you give a little bit of a position and at least a little reasoning. Otherwise you come off like those hackey news programs that start their programs with sensationalist questions.
     
  5. calcium

    calcium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2013
    Messages:
    937
    Likes Received:
    102
    Possibly true.

    But it's based on the current model of society.

    ie. where there is more of the younger generation than the previous one,
    in order to be able to support pensions etc...

    The above is a pyramid shape, which is illegal in business.

    And we know what happens to pyramid schemes, no?
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,134
    pay-as-you-die
     
  7. subtomic

    subtomic Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2000
    Messages:
    4,258
    Likes Received:
    2,824
    No Obamacare is a Bonzi scheme

    [​IMG]
     
    1 person likes this.
  8. Phillyrocket

    Phillyrocket Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    14,495
    Likes Received:
    11,691
    WTF? Obamacare or the PPACA is not a ponzi scheme. It's a piece of legislation with numerous changes to the American healthcare system so as to get as many people insured as possible.

    Do you think people are paying into some centralized government fund or something?:confused:

    Medicare or heck any insurance pool is revolving but not a ponzi scheme in that premiums are paid and claims are paid with those premiums.

    You know you could go and do a tiny bit of research and answer all this for yourself.....
     
  9. Dubious

    Dubious Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2001
    Messages:
    18,318
    Likes Received:
    5,090
    I guess the OP is around 18. His ideas seem so original, to him.
     
  10. Johndoe804

    Johndoe804 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,233
    Likes Received:
    147
    Yes, but the government is benevolent, so its alright.
     
  11. Realjad

    Realjad Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    3,418
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    Its a bit different

    When SS was introduced, there was a huge discussion about whether it COULD become a Ponzi scheme. They were well aware of the potential. In order to get the votes to approve SS they made a deal that the money was not to be risked or 'used' to make 'profit' but to be secured- they set rules in place.


    Years later when new government was in they said 'Look at SS, we can totally use that money to make profit!'

    They changed the law, changed rules and made SS a ponzi scheme

    This is how government works,, they lead you in- tell you one thing then backtrack later once they got what they want.
     
  12. Dairy Ashford

    Dairy Ashford Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,585
    Likes Received:
    1,889
    Holy **** can we stop misusing this phrase?
     
  13. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    10,344
    Likes Received:
    1,203
    China is a ponzi scheme.
     
  14. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,984
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    Your mom's a ponzi scheme.
     
    1 person likes this.
  15. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,771
    Likes Received:
    16,404
    In what way, specifically, did they change the rules to start generating a profit? And it's still not a ponzi scheme today.
     
  16. Dubious

    Dubious Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2001
    Messages:
    18,318
    Likes Received:
    5,090
    The stock market a Ponzi scheme.
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

    GladiatoRowdy Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2002
    Messages:
    16,596
    Likes Received:
    496
    SS is social insurance, not a "ponzi scheme."
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,830
    Likes Received:
    20,489
    Oh yeah that's what it is... a ponzi scheme. sure thing
     
  19. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,946
    Likes Received:
    39,969
    Jobs are ponzi schemes.
     
  20. Realjad

    Realjad Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    3,418
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    Yes. When the government wanted to start up this thing called 'social security' there was a huge argument about it because too many people were afraid their money would get squandered away. They 'assured' everyone that the above scenario wouldn't and couldn't happen because they would throw allll that money in a vault that couldn't be used/Gambled away. When the next generation politicians entered, they raised the argument 'Look we have all this money laying in a vault that we can use to invest.. we can make money off all this money! Lets do it!'

    Long story short, they took the money- put it in bad investments and here we are having to pay for everyones social security with our taxes
     

Share This Page