Pretty surprised DD's estimate is pretty similar to mine as to Lin's value, given that I am one of the few believers in Lin left on this site. I do agree with that 6 mil number, which is comparable to Jarrett Jack as a dynamic scoring guard who is first off the bench for a perennial playoff contender.
george hill $8.3 mill/year I would say lin is anywhere from $3-5mill a year if walked from the rockets today. some teams/gm/owners may over pay like rockets/rockets/les did and chill on that he couldnt be a starter on a playoff team. bulls, pacers, knicks, hawks, nets even if he doesnt start I could see coming in and helping them speed of the pace, run P&R, score more if given a green light.
The marketing dollars people "think" he brings in will decrease with time if his play continues to not improve beyond who he has been which is probably what he will continue to be throughout the prime of his career. I would argue that Lin's marketing impact is slightly higher than Yi Jianlian, but not even close to that of the reach that Yao had. Yi had a few mediocre years, and then faded out of the league, but never topped 4 million a year. -I really dont think any GM will go overboard with extra salary in his next contract because of any perceived marketing they think they might get. We all should be well informed enough through the Yao years to know that its a very, very minimal gain in the end for that particular franchise. However, the NBA as a whole gains a ton from interest overseas, but I really dont think they NEED an Asian player anymore to gain the Asian market. Going into free agency and putting yourself in another GM's position- If you want to compare salaries to likewise players (something between 6th man type, good backup, and poor starting PG) Here are some like-minded players on non-rookie salaries- -Mario Chalmers - 4 mil a year -Nick Young- 1 mil a year -Hinrich - 4 mil -D. Collison - 1.9 mil -Steve Blake - 4 mil -Shannon Brown - 3.5 mil -JJ Barea - 4.6 -Devin Harris - 1.2 -George Hill - 8 mil -Randy Foye- 3 mil -Nate Robinson - 2 mil - J Jack - 6.3 -L. Ridnour - 4.3 -M Belinelli - 2.7 -J Terry - 5.2 -L. Williams - 5.2 -J. Nelson - 8.6 I hate to break it to you folks, but this is the grouping that any NBA GM would look at to figure out the market comparables to value Jeremy Lin IF he was to hit free agency this Summer. They are looking at the role they would be expecting Lin to give their team, and the performance they can predict. If you average these salaries out to give a price to Lin with a contract that number comes out to - 4.1 mil a year. If I was an NBA GM that's the value I'd give per year, and I'd be hesitant to offer a contract that was longer than 3 years long. Sorry, but that's the hard truth folks. This is how NBA GM's would value Jeremy Lin in free agency. Maybe somebody goes drunk spending and is in a bidding war, and the price goes up slightly, but I can't see any smart NBA GM giving much more than market value which should be right around 4 mil a year.
We are beating thr topic "Lin" to death. We could ask the same question about many of the rockets. What is Chandler, Bev. TJones,Asik worth. We will be at a point that the Rockets will have to determine the worth of these players as well. Lin is an insatiable obsession at GARM and it is nausiating. This is a morbid curiosity.
Lin should be around 4-5 million a year (based on this year). Last year he was around 8 mill a year when he was a starter and performed decently. As a 6th man (and a not so good one this year) 4-5 is about what he should be worth.
Morey initially offered Lin a 4 year 20 million contract. (5M a year). Lin took it. Knicks matched and Morey jumped to the weid structure of Lin's contract to get around some sort of barganing agreement between to owner and player union. That's the way I understood it when Morey said it this year. So Lin basically agreed that he is worth 5M. I think that is a fair estimate.
What about the old UCLA backcourt of Darren Collison and Jordan Farmar. Collison is getting 1.9 a year. Farmar is getting 1.1 this year. I don't think we miss a beat with those guys. Imagine we had Bev/Collison/Farmar on a combined 4 million a year. I don't think we miss a beat.
And this is news to you just now? To be fair, the Parsons contract has been one of the most debated topics in the past year on the GARM. Jones still has two more years AFTER this one so there is really no reason to debate his contract when its that far away. It probably feels like Lin is being picked on because... well he's in a position where he's paid to be the 3rd or 4th best player on the team, and that's just not happening right now when his team needs him to step it up for a playoff run. I love Lin the player when he's on, and think he's a great ambassador for the Rockets off the court. Nobody wants Lin to succeed more than me or any of the other long time posters here, but the sad truth is he's under-performing his contract expectations, and anytime that happens in professional sports... it becomes a hot topic among fans. Ask the following fan bases about these contracts- Michael Vick contract with Eagles Jerome James contract with Knicks AJ Burnett contract with Yankees Mike Hampton contract with Rockies/Astros Arenas contract with Wizards Fans being upset at an under-performing/overpaid player on a team that needs them isn't anything new. Very little of the criticism has anything to do with Lin the person IMO (even though there are a few idiots that do have something ridiculous to say every once in awhile of course).
I have read this numerous times in reputable papers. Also Morey stated it. Please show me the evidence that what I said was wrong. His initial offer by the Rockets was 4 years 20 Mil. It was listed in his states on a few sites.
Hey, I can do that too! Check it out: Michael Jordan made $2.5M his fourth year. Morey's going to pay Jeremy Lin $15 his fourth year. Morey thinks Lin is worth SIX TIMES AS MUCH AS MICHAEL JORDAN!!!!1!!
Ask and ye shall receive... http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...y-lin-houston-rockets-offer-sheet-sources-say And... http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenst...h-50-million-poison-pill-free-agent-contract/ The initial offer was reported to be 4 years/$28M (5/5/9/9), with conflicting reports placing it at 4 years/$35M (5/5/10/10). After the Knicks stated in the media that they would 100% match the offer, it was revised again to the current offer of $5/$5/$15m. Nowhere was it ever stated in media that the Rockets were offering $5M/year for 4 years, which was less than the MLE and a no-brainer for the Knicks to match.
Just an addendum, this was the indication that the Knicks were fully intending to match from the ESPN article noted above...
There is zero chance he offered a fourth year unless it was a team option, which is basically three years.
Fine all the stats the are wrong because they say Jeremy Lin isn't that good. Using this years xRAPM there are 30 pg that have a better xRAPM rating then him. That stat must be wrong too. You are giving me one example of Dfish what about the other 20 players. Is PER and WS wrong about all of them? Forgot the stats since most of the stats show he isn't doing very well. What test should we use to judge Lin? The eyeball test? He isn't looking that good to my eyeballs. We get it if JLin was in PR offense where the ball was in his hands all the time he would have better stats, but so would other PGs. That isn't the situation so is he worth 8 mil?
I think you are remembering incorrectly. Here is an article on the original offer Houston gave to Jeremy back in 2012. http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/7/14/3159069/nba-free-agency-2012-jeremy-lin-knicks-rockets
