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[Woj] Rockets made trade deadline bid for Lowry who wishes he did things differently in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by redhotrox, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. dragician

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  3. Nook

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    The Rockets don't really leak anything, and they do not usually talk or discuss possible trades with any reporters. The only way anyone is going to know anything is to either work for the Rockets or the arena and hear the coaching staff/front office gush over other teams players (which they do) or to hear it from the agents end.

    It doesn't take a genius to figure out the Rockets were interested in Kyle Lowry and Carmelo Anthony. Morey has historically loved Lowry, and for all his issues with the coaching staff, he kept a good relationship with Morey.

    Anthony is flawed, but he is a top 10-15 player in the NBA. Morey worked with the Celtics and was reared in the Celtics mentality of getting 3 stars. The Celtics and Heat have won titles with 3 stars. Morey has been extremely honest saying he believed the Rockets need 3 stars.

    So, in my case... all I need to hear is from a relative, involved to say "Yeah, I know X really likes player Y" or "X said they need more production from position Y" to figure out whom the Rockets are and are not targeting.

    The Rockets were NEVER giving up Parsons for Rondo.... because of Parsons' contract and importantance to the team.

    The Rockets obviously are looking to add another star, or they would have dealt Lin and Asik for other good players that have contracts beyond next season, and they didn't.

    The Rockets obviously feel they can get a PG in the draft or FA easier than other positions, or they wouldn't keep letting them leave or trading them... and they wouldn't continue signing them and drafting them.

    Morey obviously believes height is over rated for a point guard.... as Brooks, Lowry and Caanan all are short but stocky... coupled with Morey saying center of gravity for a PG is important.
     
  4. Air Langhi

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    Is morey a LOH?
     
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    Agreed. Bev is the best fit and will probably be here for years.

     
  6. Deckard

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    Wow. After reading this, I really wish Lowry could have been brought back by Morey. He tried, which tells you something about both of them. Lowry has matured, and Morey didn't hold his previous actions in Houston against him. I think a lot of GM's and coaches would have.
     
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    That would have been an incredible combo.

    48 minutes of hounding.

    BTW, this shows how much or how little Lin is in Rocket's long term plan.
     
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    Trading for Lowry would have more about moving out Lin's contract than anything else. Yes, Morey probably values Lowry on-the-court more than Lin. But that wouldn't have been the main motivation in moving Lowry. Because if we had traded for Lowry...there is no way in hades we would have re-signed him to more than a 1-year deal. And we would only have offered him a 1-year deal after exhausting all other trade and free agent possibilities.

    So, at most, Lowry would have simply been a rent-a-player for this current season.
     
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    How else would I come up with the exact same wording?

    Trust me, I want Lowry as much as you, but it's not going to happen through MLE. We may be able to do a sign and trade to unload Lin but we probably have to send Toronto a pick or at least Jone/DMo to take on Lin . I don't see that happening because I think Morey wants to save his assets for a bigger fish.
     
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    Man... if we could have traded Lin for Lowry, that would have been a dream come true for us.
     
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    I'm taking the reported effort by Morey to acquire Lowry at the deadline at face value. Of course we would have moved Lin as part of the deal, in my opinion. Toronto has a big Asian population, relatively speaking, of which the Chinese component is the largest part, and Lin would have been very popular. And Jeremy still has potential that could be realized in Toronto. I think he would have been a good fit there. However, Lowry has been playing at a very high level, the Raptors are doing far better than expected (thanks to Kyle), Lin has that balloon payment that would have to be swallowed, and we didn't have the full amount left that the NBA allows you to pay in cash when doing a deal, although that probably didn't make a difference. Who knows what the Lizards wanted besides Jeremy, if they had serious interest in moving him? It just didn't happen. Most prospective deals don't. As for Lowry's contract situation, and how Morey would have addressed it, unless you are Miss Cleo, how will we ever know how that would have played out?
     
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    Would love to have the Bull Dawg back.

    The beauty of life is learning from your mistakes. Happy to see Lowery recognized his faults and learned from them.
     
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    really seems like he's matured a great deal. hard-nosed leader. poor man's Rondo in that way. Really miss him. Lowry/Beverly would be one of the best PG combos in the league.
     
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    I'd take Lowry right now over chasing Carmelo, Love, or Aldridge.
     
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    Lowry
    Harden
    Parsons
    TJones
    Howard

    That's a legit 3 star lineup. Shores up one side of the defensive perimeter. I know Morey likes to get the better of the deal all the time, but sometimes you gotta overpay to get something that's such a PERFECT fit. I'm sure Lin was in the trade, did Raps want a draft pick also? Perhaps throw in DMo? Hell even if it was for Parsons and fillers, I would have done it. Lowry's game fits perfectly and he brings a toughness that noone has on our team.

    Again, I wonder why the board has to have a collective circlejerk every time Dragic plays well, but completely forgets about Lowry.
     
  16. steddinotayto

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    It's because of how Lowry acted during the end of his time here. He was pouting all over the place while Dragic was taking his minutes.

    I do agree with you though about the fit. Now here's another question:

    Would you rather take, if you could, Lowry and Taj Gibson over Carmelo, Aldridge, or Love? I sure as hell would

    Lowry
    Harden
    Parsons
    Gibson
    Howard

    Game, Blouses.
     
  17. hotballa

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    Gibson is a frigging beast. I absolutely love his style but unfortunately his low post offense game needs a lot of help. Makes him a bad fit with Howard, who does not have a refined post game either. We'd win 55 games a year but lose in the 2nd or 3rd round playoffs because of the lack of low post scoring.

    Melo's a superstar but I just don't think his game meshes well with Harden and Howard (although, I definetely wouldn't mind seeing if it could work :D)

    IMO, Aldridge's the best fit because he's low post scoring threat and won't park himself on the 3pt line like Love would.
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    I think a combo of Howard and Gibson would do just enough down low to keep the other team's defense honest. Harden, Lowry, and Parsons can definitely shoulder the bulk of the scoring. It just looks so nice on screen to have a starting lineup, 1-5, that can match up with every team in the league.
     
  19. OremLK

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    I would honestly rather have Lowry than Rondo on this team... and on many teams in the NBA. He's a much better shooter and he's not THAT far behind in other areas of his game.
     
  20. hotballa

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    If one of those guys could develop some sort of hook shot that we can goto when the perimeter closes up, I'd be locked in. Hell even if they didn't, I think your lineup is a lock to challenge for the WCF every year. As a Rox fan, honestly that's pretty damn good. Anyone is an upgrade over Jones though, he just hasnt developed as well as I thought he would by now. Boy just disappears sometimes (Utah game noted).
     

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