I never complained about his salary. I asked if you thought that his payment was appropriate for a seventh option. Personally, player salary rarely bothers me. Les can afford it. It only becomes a nuisance when a VERY overpaid player performs extremely poorly and his salary figure straps the team for acquiring other players. I don't think that applies to Lin at all. And for the record I don't think Lin is a bad player. I prefer the glass half full. What I was debating was your point that he earned his big paycheck for moderate accomplishments. He's been average, awful and spectacular. He also has corresponding fan groups for those performances. My biggest issue is that some people set unreasonable expectations for the kid. Other people buy into it, and when he falls short the blame game goes in to full effect. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
there were plenty of rockets fans before lin and there will be plenty afterwards. If you can't give a good basketball reason why he deserves 15 million next year, don't make statements that signal your lack of faith in his basketball skills . This just reinforces that you only care about his race and fame.
Shouldn't we be talking about 8.3 million instead of 15? He deserved more than 5 million last year and this year. Whether he deserves 8.3 million is debatable.
It's arguable whether he deserved more than 5 million last year. I would say yes but it is arguable. This year is not over yet. Right now I would say no for this year.
I don't think there was anyone gives 13/6 for less than 5 mi. Jarrett Jack was the only one close, but he got paid this year and check his number this year. Can you find a non-rookie contract PG that put up that number for less than 5 mil? LOL
I'm not thinking about the pure numbers. I'm thinking moreso the fact that we could have gotten someone cheaper for comparable (albeit lesser) production. I haven't checked at all and probably won't do so but someone like Jordan Farmar, Ramon Sessions, etc. Those guys could have put up something close to 13/6 I think in our high-paced system. Even fat Ray Felton put up comparable numbers. Like I said, I think Lin was worth it at 5 million. But if we are going to use 5 million as the barometer then we have to use 15 million for next year.
The market demanded Morey to "overpay" to get Lin. Even with that price, Morey was not sure he would have gotten Lin. Don't even think about that you are smarter than Morey!! Morey did what he needed to do and the success of rox proved Morey was right.
a player, on a PLAYOFF team, that contributed to 3rd most number of wins for the team over a season, is worth more than 5 mil to that team, and at 13 and 6 for a point guard, is just about market value at 8 mil. houston had him at a discount over the past two years. it's about time he gets paid the difference between market price and discounted price. this year, no he's not a 8 mil player. if houston had kept him as a starter, then probably. but not off the bench at less than 30min/gm. but that was choice that the coaches and front office made and are willing to live with. no fault of his own.
Given if Morey knew he would land Harden! Lin is worth about 5 mil on this team because his skill set is half overlapped with Harden. His number would be much more impressive without Harden last year, and would probably justify Morey giving him 8.3mil/year (though we would lose more games and not make playoff) If his salary is 8.3mil next year, he wouldn't be as difficult to move. You guys really underestimate how much players get paid in this league. Look at Jarrett Jack and Jose Calderon.
My Wall Street friends always remind me that in a capitalist system something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Two identical houses, one in New York City and one in North Carolina will have vastly different prices. Beverley may be worth 5 million to the Rockets management and one million to LAC because of Chris Paul.
LOL Would you trade any of these guys straight up with Lin? Given somehow we can make it happen to clear up the cap space? I'd love to see the board's reaction if that happened.
Do I think he is overpaid for a 7th option? Yes, but thats a management problem, not his or yours or mine. Has he earned his paycheque? He parlayed past success into a good contract, which is what many athletes do. Again he hasn't been given a workload commensurate with his salary so I'll leave this blank. Do people have unrealistic expectations? Fans aren't reasonable, so again this question can't be answered objectively.
see original post Originally Posted by yummyhawtsauce Basketball wise he's played well given his role. As the 7th option on this team with a short leash and unknown minutes, he gives you 13 ppg and 5 assists with good percentages. In fact, 2 credible sources known as JVG and Kenny the Jet Smith said on national TV that Lin is a very good player and is now underrated.
lol I was just making a point about "ifs"....I'm glad you found it humorous...wish tinman felt the same
So meaningless to discuss the contract here. Morey's decision, Les' money. It is not like Lin had a choice at the time either.
So the Rox should just ake their 5 highest paid players and start them. It doesn't work that way. Lin may be the 7th scoring option on this team, but certainly his skills indicate he should be the 3rd or 4th option. But he was paid to be their #1 scoring option when he was recruited. So putting the blame on the player for his change in status is illogical unless that player has regressed. By most accounts he has improved this year, yet he went from starter to bench. If you take any other player in that situation you would get a revolt.
